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Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:11 am
by LKC29
Tend to agree with Jaws here there was nothing wrong with Bosc's try either so how ever you look at it a draw was a good result

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:39 am
by cpwigan
And if you really want to be picky. The pass from Tommy to Pat for try 1 was forward by a rugby union forward pass

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:19 am
by Fujiman
cherry.pie wrote:That is being picky because watching it again there's nothing wrong with it. Tommy passes from 4 yards out and Pat picks it up about 4 yards out. It might be half a yard forward but most passes go forward in the air if the passer is moving forward.
Oh the momentum rule of Stevo's :o

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:29 am
by Fujiman
cherry.pie wrote:
Fujiman wrote:
cherry.pie wrote:That is being picky because watching it again there's nothing wrong with it. Tommy passes from 4 yards out and Pat picks it up about 4 yards out. It might be half a yard forward but most passes go forward in the air if the passer is moving forward.
Oh the momentum rule of Stevo's :o
I wouldn't exactly accredit it to Stevo, it's more the laws of physics.
I think you'll find that the laws of Physics say if you pass a ball backwards it goes backwards not sideways or forwards :conf:

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:00 am
by Fujiman
cherry.pie wrote:
Fujiman wrote:
cherry.pie wrote: I wouldn't exactly accredit it to Stevo, it's more the laws of physics.
I think you'll find that the laws of Physics say if you pass a ball backwards it goes backwards not sideways or forwards :conf:
Correct. But I mean the movement of the ball in relation to the ground. If a player runs forward and passes the ball backwards on the 50 metre line the supporting player could catch the ball on the 45 metre line because the ball will keep travelling forward in the air. That is the momentum rule. It's not a rugby rule, it's just physics.
So your saying that a backward pass that goes forward 5 metres (by your description above) is not a forward pass. :conf:

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:02 am
by pedro
Fujiman wrote:
cherry.pie wrote:
Fujiman wrote:I think you'll find that the laws of Physics say if you pass a ball backwards it goes backwards not sideways or forwards :conf:
Correct. But I mean the movement of the ball in relation to the ground. If a player runs forward and passes the ball backwards on the 50 metre line the supporting player could catch the ball on the 45 metre line because the ball will keep travelling forward in the air. That is the momentum rule. It's not a rugby rule, it's just physics.
So your saying that a backward pass that goes forward 5 metres (by your description above) is not a forward pass. :conf:
hes right due to the fact that the persaon is treavelling forward also and so is the ball.

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:11 am
by mike binder
no no no dont start all this again you will have rob the ref telling you the full rule :wink:

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:17 am
by Fujiman
cherry.pie wrote:
Fujiman wrote:
cherry.pie wrote: Correct. But I mean the movement of the ball in relation to the ground. If a player runs forward and passes the ball backwards on the 50 metre line the supporting player could catch the ball on the 45 metre line because the ball will keep travelling forward in the air. That is the momentum rule. It's not a rugby rule, it's just physics.
So your saying that a backward pass that goes forward 5 metres (by your description above) is not a forward pass. :conf:
The ball can be passed in a backward motion, but move forward in relation to the ground, but is a fair pass in relation to the movement of the 2 players.
A player can pass the ball backwards over his head and it can still travel forward over the ground.
I think I'll have to agree to disagree with you on this one because i need to go to Liverpool now but your analogy above about the 50m & 45m lines proves that the ball has travelled forwards whether in relation to the ground or the players. It physically cannot go forward 5m after being thrown backwards

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:04 pm
by GeoffN
cherry.pie is absolutely correct, but that still won't convince many on here.

We've been over this so many times on here, but some people just don't understand basic physics.

Re: The Colbon Try

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:28 pm
by weststand-rich
While we're on about dodgy video ref decisions, did anybody see the Gilmour try in the Warrington game. His ball carrying arm clearly touches the floor at the elbow before he gets the ball down, yet the try was awarded?????