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The defense wasnt good enough against Broncos but some credit has to be given to there attack, Gower was there go to guy and belive me he will be dangerous against every team!

The good thing about defence is that it can and probably will be fixed up very quick!

Now I am not sure how everyone else feels but our attack with Mr Wane in charge is the best I have seen in years from Wigan!

We will be the team to beat at the end of the year!

This is another questionable thread.

What is the point in questioning a man who 7 games into his tenure has seen us reach third in the league.

As far as I can remember, he was the overwhelming favourite on here to take over from Madge so why are some being so flaky now???

Stick with him. Let's see what happens.

And let's have some faith please!!!! This website is soooooo bloody pessimistic sometimes!!!

My immediate response is to do a TonyH and say:

LET'S BATTER WIRE ON FRIDAY!!!!!

Sutty wrote:For those on here who work in a large company or among a large number of employees with different reporting levels.
If one of your directors / senior managers left would you honestly expect their successor to come in and make no changes?

If the company was doing very well that is exactly what I would expect.

In sporting terms Liverpool in soccer had decades of success on that basis and with appointments like Rads and then appointing Wane - promoting from within - that is exactly what I thought we were after doing here. Getting a similar system in place where continuity was the key.

I do work for a very large company and I have been round long enough to see several "change for change sake" reorganisations occur as new managers feel they have to change something to justify their appointment.

There is simply no need for that here. We were not in Saints situation where Simmons has gone because the team are woeful and changes are clearly required but instead we have had to replace a very successful coach who had great methods and systems. All this needs changing because.....??

I got the impression from the interview Wane gave when Madge was first appointed he had spent the Nobby years minding his P's and Q's yet quietly fuming at the way things were being run. Then when Madge came in I thought the pair of them were singing from the same hymn sheet.

It seems maybe not and it will be on Wane's head if he moves away from Madge's methods and fails. If he succeeds fine but changing a very successful formula is risky.

I think it is unlikely we will end up bracketing Wane with John Dorahay where the players basically coached themselves in the same way they had been under the previous coach because Dorahay was rubbish but Wane needs to be careful he doesn't throw the baby out with the bath water.

As far as I can see so far, all Wane has altered is to cut out those chicken wing tackles and the below the knee standing tackle which were always going to cost penalties. Madge introduced these and we became the most hated team in S.L. because of it. Wain is trying to get Wigan to be an attractive team to watch, not a violent one, which we were in 2010.
DaveO, I see you you mention that fool Dorahay. Dorahay inherited the best team he could hope to coach and made a complete mess of it, Madge and Wain inherited a team of plodders and, as far as Wigan suporters are concerned, they worked wonders with them, the results prove that.

He's bound to coach differently to Madge - he's a different person, after all! He'll have his own personality/character to majorly influence his own plans and ideas. After all, he's not a clone of Madge!

All coaches are different in many aspects - even Monie & Lowe were completely different in their attitude and approach, yet achieved continuous success.

Wane has said he will give Sam games this year at half back - Madge moved him there and kept him there permanently. Many posters on here make the point they would like to see Sam given time at "6" during this year.

SW needs time so can't understand calls for him to be dressed down by Lenigan - judge him at the end of the season and not short-term panic right now.

When he addressed the Riversiders earlier this year he said he would change some things as he didn't agree with everything Madge did.

Give the guy a chance. Believe it or not because of the stupid way the 'Champions' are decided it doesn't matter how we perform this end of the season - just the back end. The league leaders aren't the ones which go down in history.

HGWarrior wrote:When he addressed the Riversiders earlier this year he said he would change some things as he didn't agree with everything Madge did.

Give the guy a chance. Believe it or not because of the stupid way the 'Champions' are decided it doesn't matter how we perform this end of the season - just the back end. The league leaders aren't the ones which go down in history.

Then why bother attending any fixtures until the play offs

A better RL man than all of us, indeed better than any member of the Wigan RLFC staff coined a phrase 'winning starts on Monday'. Whilst one wants to peak later in the season, the ability of perform at the the highest intensity cannot just be switched on as and when needed. Performing week in week out at a very high standard is the best way to achieve a higher optimum standard as and when needed.

There's bound to be hiccups. SW isn't the finished article yet but he's getting there. Don't forget, he's only had 2 seasons as assistant and now is at the head of the club with the highest profile in the game. Every decision he makes will be scrutinised and questioned. He's got to maintain a strong will and self belief, just as Brian McDermott did last year.

Before the season began, I was expecting 6/8 losses for the season and possibly a top 4 place. I now reckon we will defo finish in the top 4 and be challenging for trophys because of SW, not inspite of him.

cherry.pie wrote:

cpwigan wrote:Then why bother attending any fixtures until the play offs

A better RL man than all of us, indeed better than any member of the Wigan RLFC staff coined a phrase 'winning starts on Monday'. Whilst one wants to peak later in the season, the ability of perform at the the highest intensity cannot just be switched on as and when needed. Performing week in week out at a very high standard is the best way to achieve a higher optimum standard as and when needed.

But Wire found out last season that if you play at a high standard week in week out but other teams can't match that standard then you end up walking away with it every game and have very little preparation for close fought, high intensity games when they really matter.

The way Wire play, the way Wane seems to want to play, the way many Wigan fans seem to want to play is simply not 100% successful at the very highest level. Indeed, it is most likely to go pear shaped.

There are Wigan fans here criticising Madge's Wigan RL as boring etc. Therein lies the problem, the extreme being Schofield, who is not too different from many here and is part of a British disease that is a MAJOR issue. We were actually brutally clinical in the 40's, 50's, & 60's. The Aussies became that clinical machine thereafter. Many seem to want to continue being misty eyed purists playing razzle dazzle RL. Well Razzle dazzle as you show re Wire might be great but it can far more readily pear shaped.

cpwigan wrote: Well Razzle dazzle as you show re Wire might be great but it can far more readily pear shaped.

Sorry CP, but you've lost me.