Have season ticket holders been done?

[josie andrews]

I don't feel as if I've been 'done' I watch & support the academy teams all the time & see the potential of our future stars. I love to watch the enthusiasm & skill of these young players & enjoyed the game on Friday.

Well done to our young Warriors

[jobo]

Don't think so. Season ticket is incredible value and even if there are occasions when star players aren't picked for whatever reason, it's great to see squad players coming through.

[KOOCH]

Sometimes I feel a little cheated especially when the proposed team as been announced the day before. Only to find that certain players do not hit the field. Then reality hits home. If I wish to see my team win the challenge cup or the grand final I must expect management to do things that initially angers me. Yes I would always want to see our strongest team running out but it is not always going to be the case is it. We are going to have to get used to the fact that Sam T is not always going to be wearing our colours or that Lockers is always going to be available for selection. I assume from the tone of your post you are of a generation like my own (older)and are used to seeing the stars turn out week in week out. The game as changed in many ways. Our expectations as Wigan supporters are no less passionate than they ever where. In fact I would say the demands are probably just the same as they always where and coaches are becoming more and more tactical in order to deliver the silver that we demanding Wigan supporters want. We are a greedy bunch of buggers we Wigan lot because we are used to rubbing the crest on our shirts and letting the world know we are Wigan. When we constantly demand from a coach that he must beat the likes of the whino's, wire, stains, and now hudds it's only to be expected that we are going to feel cheated when we believe that selection is the wrong selection. Remember last season how many posters made comments on the whino's selection policy and how they came from fifth to win the title. Well if that's what it takes to win silver every year then we are just going to have to accept that we are not going to see our strongest team to run out. I might be talking utter bo**ocks but I will always support my team. Season Ticket is not the answer for me as I cannot make all the games.

[DaveO]

You should be asking the sponsors not the season ticket holders.

Do sponsors, sponsor the team to watch the likes of Sam Tomkins or Lewis Tierney?

The answer to that is obvious IMO.

As a season ticket holder if Sam and other have been rested more than injured then yes I do feel cheated.

This is because I don't believe there has been, or is ever, any need to rest players to extent it seems to have happened. Even if we win the GF it won't prove anything in this regard one way or the other.

The fact we had an exciting game on Friday is irrelevant. We still lost at the end of the day and I never find watching a loss ultimately satisfying whether we score some good tries or not. Had we won that match it would have been great but we didn't and if people really don't care what the league results are and just want to see the side win the GF why bother going to league games at all?

Support then becomes a simple matter of statistics. Have we got enough points to qualify for the playoffs and if we have who cares who turns out on the pitch and whether a game like Friday's is won or lost?

Sport is about competition, not statistics and I personally find it ludicrous people are so quick to write off watching reserve strength sides because they are supporters and it is somehow disloyal to do otherwise.

I went on Friday as I am a season ticket holder but I wasn't expecting a win. We did get an exciting game but we still lost. I should not be going to games expecting to lose.

[DaveO]

Remember last season how many posters made comments on the whino's selection policy and how they came from fifth to win the title. Well if that's what it takes to win silver every year then we are just going to have to accept that we are not going to see our strongest team to run out. I might be talking utter bo**ocks but I will always support my team. Season Ticket is not the answer for me as I cannot make all the games.

The whinos didn't have a selection policy last season. Sinfield was a virtual ever present for example. If you look at Leeds over the recent years they have not rested 9 players in one match once. What Wane has seemingly done is much more akin to Millward resting a similar number of players a few years ago in a league game v Bradford when the RFL tried to fine Saints for doing it.

I am sure when that happened Millward was being pilloried on here and on rlfans. Now we do it, it is suddenly acceptable?

Double standards.

[KOOCH]

How do you know that the whino's never had a selection policy last season? Are you also a member of the coaching staff at Leeds? As for Millward my answer is not for print.

[Kittwazzer]

What Wane has seemingly done is much more akin to Millward resting a similar number of players a few years ago in a league game v Bradford when the RFL tried to fine Saints for doing it.

Big difference being, if you'd placed a bet on Wigan getting hammered, you'd have lost!

[DaveO]

How do you know that the whino's never had a selection policy last season? Are you also a member of the coaching staff at Leeds?

Well you must be because it was you who claimed they had one.

I did the obvious thing and checked the stats on-line. An example Burrow has made 28 appearances last season and 27 in 2013 so far. Mcguire made 26 in 2012, Sinfield was ever present.

Key players playing the majority of games means no selection policy. It's just common sense to reach that conclusion based on how many times they played. It is obvious when they are fit, they play.

[cpwigan]

I think times have changed and I am not even sure the rule you must field your strongest team still exists. Mind you even when it did teams still rested players.

I am not sure that SL players are capable of producing their best week in week out hence why our teams play outstanding one week and ordinary the next.

Lest we forget that Madge tried to overcome British inconsistency and it worked perfectly until we won the CC and cam unstuck big time. IIRC, we lost badly to Wire post Wembley then.

Until every game matters you will never see the best teams playing week in week out and playing at their best.

As I have said previously to field a weakened team v Saints and proceed to lose was a dark day, a travesty IMO by someone who should know better.

[WESTCUMBRIARIVERSIDER]

i had a season ticket from 2004 till end of last season, only never renewed cos i lost my job last year, but wouldn;t mind who played