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I've been making exactly that point for ages...all the coaches we've had over the past 10 years or so came with high hopes, and in many cases with good previous records (Monie, Raper, Endicott...) but none succeded. A coach can only work with the players he has available, and Denis simply has not had enough of his first team squad available.oxon warrior posted:
I dont dispute that. Any other coach with the same record would surely be welcomed by everybody. However what could he do to improve the current team. If he came and success wasnt immediate there would be even more moaning about the coach that there is now!
We'd have to call it Scul-thorpepandasdad posted:
Come on Silver Surfer, you'll only confuse many of our frequent posters if you insist on talking about facts!
Please make sure that future posts contain doom, gloom, innuendo, speculation and rumour. Otherwise this message board could become a white elephant!
That may be so but the point I have been making for ages is that Betts isn't getting the best out what he HAS got available.GeoffN posted:I've been making exactly that point for ages...all the coaches we've had over the past 10 years or so came with high hopes, and in many cases with good previous records (Monie, Raper, Endicott...) but none succeded. A coach can only work with the players he has available, and Denis simply has not had enough of his first team squad available.oxon warrior posted:
I dont dispute that. Any other coach with the same record would surely be welcomed by everybody. However what could he do to improve the current team. If he came and success wasnt immediate there would be even more moaning about the coach that there is now!
Monies reputation prior to his 2nd spell was at Wigan. He achieved nothing once he left after his first spell as far as I recall.GeoffN posted:I've been making exactly that point for ages...all the coaches we've had over the past 10 years or so came with high hopes, and in many cases with good previous records (Monie, Raper, Endicott...) but none succeded. A coach can only work with the players he has available, and Denis simply has not had enough of his first team squad available.oxon warrior posted:
I dont dispute that. Any other coach with the same record would surely be welcomed by everybody. However what could he do to improve the current team. If he came and success wasnt immediate there would be even more moaning about the coach that there is now!
We might put a few fans off from coming back, but Saints already have. We may attract their Millward lovers and they can our turnaways in their Millward free environment!oxon warrior posted:
If he did come to JJB would it be worth risking upseting a large section of the crowd. Good record that he had a the other lot but it wasnt as if he took over a struggling team
only thing is raper just been given a two year contract with cronulla for turning the team around and making them into serious title contenders this season.Doveoverdave posted:
Raper's reputation is what exactly - keepinig Cas afloat?
Just heard on GMR he has lost his appeal with Saints, he is on The Rugby League Hour tonightmrs_carney posted:
50% of the reason we hate him is because hes saints coach and hes a good coach, the other 50% is the fact hes an arrogant so and so! Fans go to watch the rugby team not the rugby coach and if they are fickle enough not to go because of who the coach is do we really need them?
Rob, i doubt millward will win his battle just because of the nature of the case, but if he does it will certainly be interesting to see what happens.
Fraggle, It seems your whit went over everyones head!!!!!! I got the joke thoughFraggle posted:
Incidentally - if Moaning Milly's the bookies favourite to be our next coach, does anyone know which club Long and Gleeson have bet on for him to go to next?