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Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:12 pm
by thegimble
I was just pointing out that weve lost 4 out of 5 and over the last 5 weeks and weve had exscuse after exscuse on these pages.
Injuries, Faz going, Playing well and not winning.
Starting to agree with WNAC we might now need a change as lets be honest the record now is worse than at anytine with Raper, Endacott.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:15 pm
by manmonkey
here here
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:17 pm
by MrsLam
I agree we do need a change but I don't want Betts's to be sacked, that would just be wrong.
Sometimes theyre not excuses sometimes its just being pointed out what has actually gone on recently. This week we performed 200% better than last which was to be expected, I don't think any team can play as badly as we did last week, Ithought we were very unlucky to lose.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:18 pm
by mrs_carney
why was faz allowed to train with them and come on the team coach sat at the front in his tracksuit, ok hes still a wigan player till whenever but having him ruling the roost is doing us no good on the field because hes not there! denis needs to get his priorities sorted and fast!
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:19 pm
by GeoffN
MrsLam posted:
Were any of you there?
That was a good performance, Kev Brown did really well today at full back, only players I thought didnt really stand out were Orr and Moran, they need to work on that partnership. Saying that though, their kicks in the first half weren't bad at all.
It was acase of last 10 minute syndrome, other than that no other complaints, maybe Dallas should have passed in the last few seconds we would have drawn.
Nice day, good atmoshpere on the Wiganers behalf, they may have turned out in their numbers but the only time i heard or saw a reaction from them was when they knew theyd won.
Glad to see you managed to get in, MrsLam!
Much better performance from the lads...we were the better team by far for most of the game. Newton was inches away from scoring early on, as was Dallas right at the end. I thought Moran had a pretty decent game except for that silly interception near the end - no need to panic like that with still 10 minutes left.
Started badly with Jerry's knock-on at the start, but great defence after that, until, as you say, the last 10 mins. Still a lot of them look to be not fully fit yet, though. Brown did ok at fullback, but we need Kris back - he wouldn't have fallen for some of those dummies that Brown did...and it was a lovely break and pass for Moran's try. Signs of Orr and Moran starting to get used to each other, that can only get better with more games.
I thought Dallas had scored at the end, too.
The heartening thing, after the UTC game, was their attitude...tried their hearts out all game, and some lovely tactical moves. If we can keep this team reasonably together and injury free now, and get Rads back, we're gonna be up there come the end of the season, even without Hock and Lockers.
I see that even wnac admits they played better, which is as near to a compliment as we're going to get from there.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:19 pm
by we_need_a_coach
MrsLam posted:
Were any of you there?
That was a good performance, Kev Brown did really well today at full back, only players I thought didnt really stand out were Orr and Moran, they need to work on that partnership. Saying that though, their kicks in the first half weren't bad at all.
It was acase of last 10 minute syndrome, other than that no other complaints, maybe Dallas should have passed in the last few seconds we would have drawn.
Nice day, good atmoshpere on the Wiganers behalf, they may have turned out in their numbers but the only time i heard or saw a reaction from them was when they knew theyd won.

Well MrsLam you have now lost any respect I had for you. If you can come on this board saying that that was good enough, You have lost it, that was probably the best our lads can play, but I certainly don't see it as you do, it is'nt good enough, we deserved to lose, as yet again we only played for 60 mins.
WE_NEED_A_COACH !!!!
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:20 pm
by HappyHooker
thegimble posted:
I was just pointing out that weve lost 4 out of 5 and over the last 5 weeks and weve had exscuse after exscuse on these pages.
Injuries, Faz going, Playing well and not winning.
Starting to agree with WNAC we might now need a change as lets be honest the record now is worse than at anytine with Raper, Endacott.
but we will win the next 3 if not the next 4 for cert. Hudds will be overcome at home, Salford got hammered at home by the Bulls, and london at home will be fine. I know it looks bad, but if we play like we did today in those 3 games, with rads to come, we'll be right.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:21 pm
by thegimble
MrsLam posted:
I agree we do need a change but I don't want Betts's to be sacked, that would just be wrong.
Sometimes theyre not excuses sometimes its just being pointed out what has actually gone on recently. This week we performed 200% better than last which was to be expected, I don't think any team can play as badly as we did last week, Ithought we were very unlucky to lose.
Betts is still assistant coach. There are 2 guys unemployed at the moment who have won at the highest level.
Anderson and Milward. Betts should remain as assistant and 1 of them takeover. Were going backwards too quickly and we need a new coach.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:22 pm
by GeoffN
we_need_a_coach posted:
Well MrsLam you have now lost any respect I had for you. If you can come on this board saying that that was good enough, You have lost it, that was probably the best our lads can play, but I certainly don't see it as you do, it is'nt good enough, we deserved to lose, as yet again we only played for 60 mins.
WE_NEED_A_COACH !!!!
There's a lot more improvement to come yet, and it will, but today was a big step in the right direction.
All we need now is a fullback, and a few games with a settled team.
Re: NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:24 pm
by thegimble
mrs_carney posted:
why was faz allowed to train with them and come on the team coach sat at the front in his tracksuit, ok hes still a wigan player till whenever but having him ruling the roost is doing us no good on the field because hes not there! denis needs to get his priorities sorted and fast!
Thats worrying to me. Betts should have been strong enough for me to tell him to sod off. He might still get paid by Us but hes not a WW player anymore. If he thinks he still is a WW player then he should have played.
That proves to me that were not just lacking leadershp on the pitch but off it too.
Faz should have been told not to go anywhere near the team and stay at home or as anyother supporter would do pay to get in.