Wigan Standard Players ?

[Tuigamala]

Sam (Obviously world class)
Manfredi (Surely a shoe in for the four nations)
Gelling (world class and a legendary local hero type character too, Im glad he's at Wigan!)
MM (tough as owd boots started in great form until his injury)
Flower (been patchy through injuries this yr but he's on eof the best on his day)
Farrell (When he's in-form he's the best line runner England have)
Lockers (The best player in Super League bar none)
Bateman (Phenomenon, gritty, determined and as unorthodox as they come. Mr Consistent!)
Charnley (Back to his best IMO looks up for it this year)
Williams (Raw unteachable talent, soon to be England regular)
Crosby (tough driver of the ball with no care for his own safety)
Joel (patchy form this year but love his one handed carries)
Clubb (will put a great game in then a quiet one and so on, can be a numbskull sometimes with penalties but a cracking prop on a good day)
Gildart (class act will mature into a great centre)
Hampshire, (I like him it the halves personally whether he will comeback is another topic)
Burke, (tackles everything and shown some signs of what he can do in some games and with a more experienced pack around him could develop into a strong middle for Wigan)
Gregson, (definitely one for the future but must improve his tackling)
Higginson, (not sure yet haven't seen enough maybe it was a little too soon for him to be thrown in at the deep end but we had no choice)
Sutton, (needs to re-discover early last years form IMO)
Smith, (tackling will probably never improve but he will throw at least 1 cracking game in out of 5)
Powell, (I like Powell he's proved himself for me in the hooker role. Not the fastest from dummy half but his work rate is probably better than Mickeys)
TT, (a modern day eee orrr, eeee orrr, only picked for his agression IMO)
Sarginson, (kick return specialist yes ball player no)
Tierney, (speedy and can be creative, has some billy wizz traits which could shine through in a couple more years)
Isa, (needs to be more consistent to deserve a shirt IMO)
Mossop, back to his old self and been our best prop over the last 2 months

All in all this team is still gelling and I truly believe we will win things this year and continue to do so over the next 5.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

Effort has got little to do with it. Alas Wane, in my opinion, will pick effort over ability so what he would have made of Brett Kenny with his hands in his pockets I don't know. He'd have probably sent Ellery Hanley on loan to Cas and never touched Offiah with a barge pole.

Wigan standard players? In no particular order:

Lockers, Micky Mac, Bateman, S Tomkins (assuming he can still run), Farrell and Charnley.

I would include J Tomkins if he could find his pre-RU form.

Some young players have potential to join that list such as Sutton, Gildard, Manfredi and Williams and maybe Burke but they aren't there yet.

The rest are distinctly average in my view. None of the senior props scare other teams and while Sargeson and Gelling will run themselves into the ground (so wane loves them) they lack that instinctive ability that comes to a player like Bateman naturally.

If you look at the number of players in the top row it is not very many and if you think who would also be in that row just a few seasons ago (so in the salary cap era) such as Carmont, Richards, Tommy L and Green I think it's obvious why we don't look as good.

There are too few players of real quality and too many average and junior players in the first team.

I know he is not in the first team but add Kibula to that young players list Dave.

[DaveO]

Gelling (world class and a legendary local hero type character too, Im glad he's at Wigan!)

Were you fishing for a bite in saying Gelling is world class, because if so, you got one!?

There are plenty of people on here who think Gelling is a better player than I do but I'd hazard a guess none of them think he is remotely close to world class.

In fact I bet there is only you on the entire planet that thinks he is world class and I include Wane and his Mum & Dad in that!

He is far too inconsistent, error prone and erratic to be called world class.

We only have two world class players in our side in my opinion, Lockers and Sam T (assuming he regains his past form). Bateman also, perhaps.

As to his antics and character, they let him get aways with far too many errors in my opinion. I don't blame him for milking it, which I reckon he does but give me a straight laced "boring" truly world class player like Hanley any day. He didn't need to ride around on a BMX bike to gain the fans adulation.

If he was world class he'd be in the NRL already.

[Wandering Warrior]

Gelling needs to be more consistent to be anywhere near a top player IMO. He turns in a decent game about one in four at the moment and I won't get excited about him running into brick walls as doing well!?!
When he's not anonymous in a big game that matters will be the first step in that direction.

[keptinthedarkfans]

Gelling (world class and a legendary local hero type character too, Im glad he's at Wigan!)

Were you fishing for a bite in saying Gelling is world class, because if so, you got one!?

There are plenty of people on here who think Gelling is a better player than I do but I'd hazard a guess none of them think he is remotely close to world class.

In fact I bet there is only you on the entire planet that thinks he is world class and I include Wane and his Mum & Dad in that!

He is far too inconsistent, error prone and erratic to be called world class.

We only have two world class players in our side in my opinion, Lockers and Sam T (assuming he regains his past form). Bateman also, perhaps.

As to his antics and character, they let him get aways with far too many errors in my opinion. I don't blame him for milking it, which I reckon he does but give me a straight laced "boring" truly world class player like Hanley any day. He didn't need to ride around on a BMX bike to gain the fans adulation.

If he was world class he'd be in the NRL already.

I have said on many occasions and stick by it Gelling Will be world class centre and will play in NRL. He has the raw talent I have seen in few players of recent times and reminds me of Kevin Iro. Only time will tell .

[Stuwigan]

Great to see so many opinions on here about the Wigan Standard player also many agree with the main core of the team.

It's a hard question to answer as what one person thinks is world class or Wigan Standard others don't.I would also say there are not many other teams in SL with so much potential of young players In the first team and lower teams still to come through who could make a world class player / Wigan Standard.

The future looks good

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Gelling (world class and a legendary local hero type character too, Im glad he's at Wigan!)

Were you fishing for a bite in saying Gelling is world class, because if so, you got one!?

There are plenty of people on here who think Gelling is a better player than I do but I'd hazard a guess none of them think he is remotely close to world class.

In fact I bet there is only you on the entire planet that thinks he is world class and I include Wane and his Mum & Dad in that!

He is far too inconsistent, error prone and erratic to be called world class.

We only have two world class players in our side in my opinion, Lockers and Sam T (assuming he regains his past form). Bateman also, perhaps.

As to his antics and character, they let him get aways with far too many errors in my opinion. I don't blame him for milking it, which I reckon he does but give me a straight laced "boring" truly world class player like Hanley any day. He didn't need to ride around on a BMX bike to gain the fans adulation.

If he was world class he'd be in the NRL already.

I am very much pro Gelling but totally agree he is not World Class yet, however just a couple of things from your post I want to discuss further.

I agree he has been inconsistent, erratic and error prone in the past but recently I genuinely think he has been more consistent and less erratic.

Lockers has been World class for a good few years now and never been in the NRL, but again Gelling is not world class yet!

[Wandering Warrior]

I can see the comparisons with the Beast re. Gelling, but if I remember Iro wasn't a work in progress when he arrived he was already an international and younger than Gelling is now. It would be good if Gelling can hit the same level, it would also be a big ask at the moment in my opinion.

[Firestarter]

Too be fair he his cutting out a lot of his mistakes and is becoming a very good club player.I doubt he will ever be world class ,and hope he proves me wrong , big time.
I would say he's more of a gene miles because ,he doesn't have pace,doesn't break tackles,but can offload in near impossible predicaments
I think the pace thing will sadly let him down

[Tuigamala]

Gelling (world class and a legendary local hero type character too, Im glad he's at Wigan!)

Were you fishing for a bite in saying Gelling is world class, because if so, you got one!?

There are plenty of people on here who think Gelling is a better player than I do but I'd hazard a guess none of them think he is remotely close to world class.

In fact I bet there is only you on the entire planet that thinks he is world class and I include Wane and his Mum & Dad in that!

He is far too inconsistent, error prone and erratic to be called world class.

We only have two world class players in our side in my opinion, Lockers and Sam T (assuming he regains his past form). Bateman also, perhaps.

As to his antics and character, they let him get aways with far too many errors in my opinion. I don't blame him for milking it, which I reckon he does but give me a straight laced "boring" truly world class player like Hanley any day. He didn't need to ride around on a BMX bike to gain the fans adulation.

If he was world class he'd be in the NRL already.

No fishing Dave I despise fishing it's far too boring a hobby for me. Anyway my opinion is he's world class, he can turn nothing into something, he's an absolute nightmare to bring down without him offloading and is starting to develop into the investment Wigan were led to believe he was and I might add by the one and only Kevin Iro.

I think you will need to get to like him because he's going to be around for a long time at Wigan.