Rocky what now
Re: Rocky what now
Two coaches have both seen him as not having what's needed to be a Super League half. With Roberts' injuries the situation was made for him at Cas and for whatever reason it hasn't worked out. Maybe he should've worked harder at improving at other positions and learning more about how the game is played, so ultimately he'd be a better half at the end of it all.
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Re: Rocky what now
Ohh maybe its more of a question of how much pressure have supporters and media put on the England players.cpwigan wrote:Meds I would never write any young player off. Moreso when that player is still a Wigan player. The guy is low confidence wise and thus not playingh for Cas. Does that mean he us runnish? or a case of class is permanent, form is temporary?
Are the players playing for England garbage, worse than those playing for Wales or are the Welsh currently more confidents hence playing better?
Ohh maybe its more of a question of how much pressure have supporters and friends put on Rocky.
Both have been built up to be a lot better than they are and both sorry atm in time are failing. If he can not play for Cas week in week out then you need to ask yourself was he a flat track bully at his age level.
BTW CP Welsh side midfield and Bale would walk into the England side. Wales has one of the best midfield in the game. Allen one of the best defensive types in the game. Ramsey one of the better going forward. Joe Ledley who does both.
English problems in sport is easy once you lose a game you panic media attacks the coach he then changes the team and the cycle starts again.
And Wales up to now are the only team playing without the fear of losing and yes its a better side than England. England have no team they have a group of individuals who get pressurised by fans and media and then bottle it.
Best comment this year Coleman after the Belgium game.
I have no fear of failing.
Hodgon and England have always in every sport almost a fear of losing its a different mind set and that is the difference. Last goal against Belgium was a cross from a full back on the 87th minute whilst Wales were 2-1 up.
If that was England it would be give the ball to Belgium and stop them.
This Welsh side is so underrated its a joke. 1-11 is a better side been together for years. Whilst England side some of them were not even in the squad 2 years ago.
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Wales are doing very well and every credit to them but relax gimble they are not that good, think you are getting a little carried away!! International football is on its backside and Wales are making the most of it unlike England that were disgraceful!
But we still beat you and although it was a last minute goal you could clearly see we were a team with more ability, however you guys have a fantastic belief at the moment!
But we still beat you and although it was a last minute goal you could clearly see we were a team with more ability, however you guys have a fantastic belief at the moment!
'If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them.' - Wayne Bennett
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Yes you did but you had to win a draw was good enough for Wales. Not getting carried away realistically I excepted to get to the Quarter final anything else is a bonus.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Wales are doing very well and every credit to them but relax gimble they are not that good, think you are getting a little carried away!! International football is on its backside and Wales are making the most of it unlike England that were disgraceful!
But we still beat you and although it was a last minute goal you could clearly see we were a team with more ability, however you guys have a fantastic belief at the moment!
But its the only team who is playing with no fear atm. Something England players wished they had.
International football is on its backside due to negative tactics of other sides. Last nights game was awful 2 of the best sides in the world and not one side wanted to win the game but both were desperate not to lose.#
Mind set is a massive thing in sport you set out having to win it makes you take risks that was the message to them after England.
Does not change the fact that media and fans put so much pressure on the English players its not fun for them to play. Seems its not an honour but a burden to play football for England for then players.
Re: Rocky what now
Do not write him off; Wigan haven't!!
Re: Rocky what now
Neither have I but clock is ticking and he has 2 years to prove himself otherwise he will be added to a long list of players who did not make it at Wigan.cpwigan wrote:Do not write him off; Wigan haven't!!
Re: Rocky what now
He thought he was Billy big bollox and soon got put in his place, he didn't like it and spat the dummy, he had his chance and blew it, i like many others think he is nothing more than a child star that turns out being mediocre in the adult world, get him off to Leigh for next season, if he sorts himself out fair enough, if he doesn't then let him stay there
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Re: Rocky what now
When he played, I thought he was a decent player but never quite understood the way in which he was regarded as being the next superstar. Now that's not his fault at all and I've got enough confidence in the 'Wigan way' of bringing talent through to believe that he will be a very good player. Whether he will be quite right for the Wigan team or be another Luke Robinson or Kevin Brown - nearly but not quite, remains to be seen.
I hope he does make a go of it. He never merited the adulation and doesn't deserve the slagging-off. Let's get him back and give him the chance to rebuild his Wigan career.
I hope he does make a go of it. He never merited the adulation and doesn't deserve the slagging-off. Let's get him back and give him the chance to rebuild his Wigan career.
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We didn't have to win!thegimble wrote:Yes you did but you had to win a draw was good enough for Wales. Not getting carried away realistically I excepted to get to the Quarter final anything else is a bonus.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Wales are doing very well and every credit to them but relax gimble they are not that good, think you are getting a little carried away!! International football is on its backside and Wales are making the most of it unlike England that were disgraceful!
But we still beat you and although it was a last minute goal you could clearly see we were a team with more ability, however you guys have a fantastic belief at the moment!
But its the only team who is playing with no fear atm. Something England players wished they had.
International football is on its backside due to negative tactics of other sides. Last nights game was awful 2 of the best sides in the world and not one side wanted to win the game but both were desperate not to lose.#
Mind set is a massive thing in sport you set out having to win it makes you take risks that was the message to them after England.
Does not change the fact that media and fans put so much pressure on the English players its not fun for them to play. Seems its not an honour but a burden to play football for England for then players.
'If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them.' - Wayne Bennett
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Re: Rocky what now
As for Rocky, actions speak louder than words!!
'If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them.' - Wayne Bennett