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Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:00 pm
by TrueBlueWarrior
FWarrior wrote:Unfortunately his absence through injury helped Wigan get to OT and win a GF.
Unfortunately? So you didn't enjoy winning the GF?

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:48 pm
by Panchitta Marra
FWarrior wrote:Unfortunately his absence through injury helped Wigan get to OT and win a GF.
Helped?, how do we come to that idea.
If clubby had been fully fit and had played, I think we would still have won the GF. Do you not think so?

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:02 pm
by Wintergreen
fozzieskem wrote:Great player and a nice bloke,good news all round for a change in the injury department.
Agree

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:19 pm
by FWarrior
Panchitta Marra wrote:
FWarrior wrote:Unfortunately his absence through injury helped Wigan get to OT and win a GF.
Helped?, how do we come to that idea.
If clubby had been fully fit and had played, I think we would still have won the GF. Do you not think so?
Wigan win a GF, Tony Clubb joins Wigan, no GF, no GF. Clubb injured for large part of the season, plays very few games. Wigan win a GF.

I understand fans like the wholehearted effort of Tony Clubb but it takes more than effort; brains to win at the highest level. Any fool can jump out of a defensive line and ignore the players inside and outside of them, anybody can throw reckless tackles that fans get excited about but injured the player.

The big ? Tony Clubb played most of his Wigan game from the interchange position. We have FPN who offers more controlled, intelligent agression and Ben Flower. Taulima Tautai offering far better impact from the bench, Tautai or clubb? No brainer. Sutton, Bretherton and Navarrete all younger in reserve or a 29 year old who is very gutsy but has less RL brain and long term future.

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:19 pm
by Wintergreen
FWarrior wrote:
Panchitta Marra wrote:
FWarrior wrote:Unfortunately his absence through injury helped Wigan get to OT and win a GF.
Helped?, how do we come to that idea.
If clubby had been fully fit and had played, I think we would still have won the GF. Do you not think so?
Wigan win a GF, Tony Clubb joins Wigan, no GF, no GF. Clubb injured for large part of the season, plays very few games. Wigan win a GF.

I understand fans like the wholehearted effort of Tony Clubb but it takes more than effort; brains to win at the highest level. Any fool can jump out of a defensive line and ignore the players inside and outside of them, anybody can throw reckless tackles that fans get excited about but injured the player.

The big ? Tony Clubb played most of his Wigan game from the interchange position. We have FPN who offers more controlled, intelligent agression and Ben Flower. Taulima Tautai offering far better impact from the bench, Tautai or clubb? No brainer. Sutton, Bretherton and Navarrete all younger in reserve or a 29 year old who is very gutsy but has less RL brain and long term future.
Bit harsh.

Granted he might not be a superstar, but that's the Salary Cap for you.

He's a good solid player who benefits the team imo.

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:47 am
by FWarrior
Clubb is a product of the salary cap whose place here was helped by Crosby and Mossop (whilst injured!) demanding wage/contract rises.

Oddly or not, most fans preferred him over Sarginson who was not a fans favourite but played a vital role in winning a GF. I guess that is fans for you.

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:53 pm
by morley pie eater
The booze hound wrote:
FWarrior wrote:Fans favourite with his wholehearted attempted big hits but he is too high risk and makes defensive errors in big games that cost his team points.
Welcome back CP, :wink: , but can you name 3 occasions where Clubbs defensive errors in big games have cost his (our) team points
This

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:42 pm
by FWarrior
Wiganer Ted wrote:Maybe with Clubby out there we'd have won the C Cup, LLS or both as well as the GF.
Who knows?
Since he joined Wigan, the evidence says otherwise.

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:55 pm
by FWarrior
The booze hound wrote:
FWarrior wrote:Fans favourite with his wholehearted attempted big hits but he is too high risk and makes defensive errors in big games that cost his team points.
Welcome back CP, :wink: , but can you name 3 occasions where Clubbs defensive errors in big games have cost his (our) team points
I am nobody, try any of the above games.

13/05/2016 Hull FC
28/04/2016 Warrington Wolves
21/04/2016 Huddersfield Giants
15/04/2016 Castleford Tigers
10/04/2016 Wakefield Trinity
01/04/2016 Warrington Wolves
28/03/2016 Hull Kingston Rovers
25/03/2016 St Helens
17/03/2016 Widnes Vikings
11/03/2016 Leeds Rhinos
04/03/2016 Hull FC
25/02/2016 Salford Red Devils
20/02/2016 Brisbane Broncos
12/02/2016 Huddersfield Giants
05/02/2016 Catalans Dragons
24/01/2016 Salford Red Devils

We won competitions before Clubb arrived, we lost all since he came until he was out injured.

Supporters are rarely objective. The website sponsored Dan Sarginson and yet most of you loathed Dan and criticised him constantly. Dan Sarginson was a more effective and better player for Wigan but you all would rather sing the praises of a nice bloke who was not a great forward that Dan Sarginson. FPN is already a far better and more effective forward for Wigan than Tony Clubb. No doubt FPN will be a focuse of criticism by you all in the coming season. Many fans disliked Shaun Edwards more than Andy Gregory so he was never praised to the same extent. Yet, both were great Wigan players. Fans are fickle and subjective. Ancient maybe, loyal NO.

Re: Clubb’s green-light to return

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:34 pm
by up the junction
I am nobody, try any of the above games.

13/05/2016 Hull FC
28/04/2016 Warrington Wolves
21/04/2016 Huddersfield Giants
15/04/2016 Castleford Tigers
10/04/2016 Wakefield Trinity
01/04/2016 Warrington Wolves
28/03/2016 Hull Kingston Rovers
25/03/2016 St Helens
17/03/2016 Widnes Vikings
11/03/2016 Leeds Rhinos
04/03/2016 Hull FC
25/02/2016 Salford Red Devils
20/02/2016 Brisbane Broncos
12/02/2016 Huddersfield Giants
05/02/2016 Catalans Dragons
24/01/2016 Salford Red Devils
What a load of Rubbish ,your honestly trying to say that Clubbs at fault for us losing the above? I see you still talk shite under a different login !!!!