I was not being facetious and if you think Williams has it in him to become world class you are entitled to, but I cant be that optimistic about him, I dont rate him and think he is vastly overrated.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:I can assure you that it is much better than being a pessimist.old hooker wrote:I love an optimistshaunedwardsfanclub wrote:Well done Wes. For what it is worth, I think that if George can stay fit, if we can retain him and we can get some good forwards to give him room to play in, he will become one of our great half backs.![]()
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+1 Couldnt agree more massively over rated how many bad passes does he through either in to the floor or head heightold hooker wrote:I was not being facetious and if you think Williams has it in him to become world class you are entitled to, but I cant be that optimistic about him, I dont rate him and think he is vastly overrated.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:I can assure you that it is much better than being a pessimist.old hooker wrote: I love an optimist![]()
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For once you are correct. Good to see you recognise your own failings!medlocke wrote:it shows that some of the experts on here don't know diddly![]()

Get rid of Lockers and it will have been a great pre season eh?
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Certainly those stats looked much better, particularly in comparison, to what I expected them to be.
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But i've never claimed to be an expert, just a pesamistic fanWandering Warrior wrote:For once you are correct. Good to see you recognise your own failings!medlocke wrote:it shows that some of the experts on here don't know diddly![]()
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Get rid of Lockers and it will have been a great pre season eh?

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George has a real good running game and a decent grubber.
He needs to get more strings to his bow or we need to sign a half with a great organising/kicking game.
The stats individually are very good, however, it does highlight how poor he is at kicking.
He needs to get more strings to his bow or we need to sign a half with a great organising/kicking game.
The stats individually are very good, however, it does highlight how poor he is at kicking.
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I agree, his kicking game is average at best, and that's being kind. It's something he really needs to work on if he is to develop into a world class halfback. It's also one of the reasons I suggested Escare at #6 as he has a very good long kicking game, leaving Sam to organise and run his attacking lines from fullback.AdamMac wrote:George has a real good running game and a decent grubber.
He needs to get more strings to his bow or we need to sign a half with a great organising/kicking game.
The stats individually are very good, however, it does highlight how poor he is at kicking.
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Making the best use Escare will be key to salvaging anything from this season IMO. He was brilliant for us before his injury he was managing games with his kicks for tocuh and cropping up everywhere on the pitchNo straw damn us wrote:I agree, his kicking game is average at best, and that's being kind. It's something he really needs to work on if he is to develop into a world class halfback. It's also one of the reasons I suggested Escare at #6 as he has a very good long kicking game, leaving Sam to organise and run his attacking lines from fullback.AdamMac wrote:George has a real good running game and a decent grubber.
He needs to get more strings to his bow or we need to sign a half with a great organising/kicking game.
The stats individually are very good, however, it does highlight how poor he is at kicking.
Id be inclined to leave him at 1 because i think he can still provide a kicking game from there and his pace is a real threat on kick returns.
One of Sams most undesirable traits since he returned is his reluctance to run the ball back from kick returns, he would often wait for a winger to drop back and pass rather than run it back himself. This means we start sets 10-20m from where we would had he just belted it
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You gain a good kick returner in Escare, but lose a passing game when he joins the line, he's also not as good defensively as sam at full back.Wigan_forever1985 wrote:Making the best use Escare will be key to salvaging anything from this season IMO. He was brilliant for us before his injury he was managing games with his kicks for tocuh and cropping up everywhere on the pitchNo straw damn us wrote:I agree, his kicking game is average at best, and that's being kind. It's something he really needs to work on if he is to develop into a world class halfback. It's also one of the reasons I suggested Escare at #6 as he has a very good long kicking game, leaving Sam to organise and run his attacking lines from fullback.AdamMac wrote:George has a real good running game and a decent grubber.
He needs to get more strings to his bow or we need to sign a half with a great organising/kicking game.
The stats individually are very good, however, it does highlight how poor he is at kicking.
Id be inclined to leave him at 1 because i think he can still provide a kicking game from there and his pace is a real threat on kick returns.
One of Sams most undesirable traits since he returned is his reluctance to run the ball back from kick returns, he would often wait for a winger to drop back and pass rather than run it back himself. This means we start sets 10-20m from where we would had he just belted it
It seemed to me that he was just getting his bearings and timing prior to getting injured, as he was often just off the pace when joining the line for us, albeit I was still very impressed with his contribution.
I think Sam sheer will to win and competitivness will commit serveral defenders when he's playng in the halves and that will suit us.