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Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 am
by fozzieskem
Wiganer Ted wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
He had it all in gear at Salford.
I preferred Zak at centre for Cas but seeing the weather Lam's selection was the best available in the circumstances. Hope he's back at centre for London with Escare at fb.
Perhaps Hankinson will revert to second row off the bench.
Sorry while I understand your opinion Hardaker is leagues better at FB than Escare will ever be it’s be for a game or two at best,ironically while I have no real opinion over Escare other than to say he’s a bits and bob type player he should have had a couple of games early doors so Hardaker could play himself into the side,but now Zak is getting better each game I don’t see where Escare can fit
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:41 am
by Caboosegg
fozzieskem wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 am
Wiganer Ted wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
He had it all in gear at Salford.
I preferred Zak at centre for Cas but seeing the weather Lam's selection was the best available in the circumstances. Hope he's back at centre for London with Escare at fb.
Perhaps Hankinson will revert to second row off the bench.
Sorry while I understand your opinion Hardaker is leagues better at FB than Escare will ever be it’s be for a game or two at best,ironically while I have no real opinion over Escare other than to say he’s a bits and bob type player he should have had a couple of games early doors so Hardaker could play himself into the side,but now Zak is getting better each game I don’t see where Escare can fit
Im sorry but i disagree, zak defense is leagues above Escare but hes been lazy at collecting the ball and his best attack stint has been at centre.
Escare is still giving more attack threat from Fullback.
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:20 pm
by pedro
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:41 am
fozzieskem wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 am
Wiganer Ted wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
He had it all in gear at Salford.
I preferred Zak at centre for Cas but seeing the weather Lam's selection was the best available in the circumstances. Hope he's back at centre for London with Escare at fb.
Perhaps Hankinson will revert to second row off the bench.
Sorry while I understand your opinion Hardaker is leagues better at FB than Escare will ever be it’s be for a game or two at best,ironically while I have no real opinion over Escare other than to say he’s a bits and bob type player he should have had a couple of games early doors so Hardaker could play himself into the side,but now Zak is getting better each game I don’t see where Escare can fit
Im sorry but i disagree, zak defense is leagues above Escare but hes been lazy at collecting the ball and his best attack stint has been at centre.
Escare is still giving more attack threat from Fullback.
he just wont as there is no space being created for him. Zak is a better runner than Escare, maybe not as fast but hits better lines and has a better rugby brain
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:38 pm
by First Try Tickle
Hardaker will never get back to how he was until the pack start dominating and there is room out wide.
Unfortunately playing with only 3 props, one of which is TT, we are always going to struggle. Ok we have a couple of injuries, but both Club and Navarette have had a poor start to the season. Add this to Faz being out and Lockers struggling and I think we need to look at bringing someone in, even the likes of Amor on loan.
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:43 pm
by TWO EYED WARRIOR
Been good recently.
Cant expect him to do the same as Tomkins from Full back, totally different players
Played very well at centre and is IMO his best position
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:19 pm
by medlocke
He is defensively better than Sam Tomkins
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:34 pm
by moto748
On TV recently, can't remember where exactly, probably The Superleague Show, ZH was described as "athletic".
I thought, if there's one word that doesn't describe him... He looks laboured to me. I've seen comments elsewhere to the effect that he is carrying too much weight, maybe he is. And I don't think 'playing behind a beaten pack' totally excuses him; he's not a half, after all. is it too much to ask of a full-back that, bringing the ball out of defence, he at least sometimes beats the first defender?
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:02 pm
by pedro
moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:34 pm
On TV recently, can't remember where exactly, probably The Superleague Show, ZH was described as "athletic".
I thought, if there's one word that doesn't describe him... He looks laboured to me. I've seen comments elsewhere to the effect that he is carrying too much weight, maybe he is. And I don't think 'playing behind a beaten pack' totally excuses him; he's not a half, after all. is it too much to ask of a full-back that, bringing the ball out of defence, he at least sometimes beats the first defender?
doesnt matter where he plays, if its behind a beaten back hes onto a loser
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:55 am
by bertina
moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:34 pm
On TV recently, can't remember where exactly, probably The Superleague Show, ZH was described as "athletic".
I thought, if there's one word that doesn't describe him... He looks laboured to me. I've seen comments elsewhere to the effect that he is carrying too much weight, maybe he is. And I don't think 'playing behind a beaten pack' totally excuses him; he's not a half, after all. is it too much to ask of a full-back that, bringing the ball out of defence, he at least sometimes beats the first defender?
At least he will bring the ball out from full back. Sam Tomkins avoided doing that for the whole of last season.
Re: Hardaker
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:24 pm
by captinjack
fozzieskem wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 am
Wiganer Ted wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
He had it all in gear at Salford.
I preferred Zak at centre for Cas but seeing the weather Lam's selection was the best available in the circumstances. Hope he's back at centre for London with Escare at fb.
Perhaps Hankinson will revert to second row off the bench.
Sorry while I understand your opinion Hardaker is leagues better at FB than Escare will ever be it’s be for a game or two at best,ironically while I have no real opinion over Escare other than to say he’s a bits and bob type player he should have had a couple of games early doors so Hardaker could play himself into the side,but now Zak is getting better each game I don’t see where Escare can fit
Morgan should be used as Rhinos used Burrows. Bring him on when the opposition is tired with 15minutes to go in each half. He has speed and could open defences up.