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Re: Samoa v Tonga
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:52 pm
by Dreamteam
Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:41 pm
Dreamteam wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:19 pm
Wiganer Ted wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:29 pm
They are big players but slow in almost everything they do.
England are also big but very mobile. Not one prop playing today would I swap for Tom Burgess or Chris Hill. Our passing is faster and more accurate.
Can't see past anything but an England win b y a large margin.
Papalii is better than both of those easy but this is the best I’ve seen Tom play for England and same with hill. There will still be people crying about hill starting in the semis ignoring how bang average Knowles and lees have been
If Burgess and Hill maintain their form I think England are red hot favourites next week. I think Knowles had a good game against PNG, Lees for me is bang average. Welsby needs to step up to the mark, he was average behind a dominant pack.
Definitely should be beating that Samoan team next week. I was actually glad they won in the end Tonga have a lot of front in the pack that could easily match us where in the Samoan team there’s a few lads getting on. I don’t mind welsby not having a great game it’s his first game back with George since the first game so understandable. The conditions also suited George a lot more as well. People moaning about cooper but he had double post contact meters than lees. Lees also missed 8 tackles. How bad is that for an interchange prop
Re: Samoa v Tong
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:41 pm
by josie andrews
I think Burgess, Cooper & Hill, who think is playing his best rugby league for a long, long time, are perfect props.
I would have had a couple of other forwards rather than Lees & Batchelor. The only Saints player deserving of his place IMO is Makinson. Welsby is too immature to play internationals!
Re: Samoa v Tong
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:49 pm
by Dreamteam
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:41 pm
I think Burgess, Cooper & Hill, who think is playing his best rugby league for a long, long time, are perfect props.
I would have had a couple of other forwards rather than Lees & Batchelor. The only Saints player deserving of his place IMO is Makinson. Welsby is too immature to play internationals!
Percival doesn’t get into this team either. Glad he’s enjoying his holiday when he was perfectly fit to play for saints in the final and semi
Re: Samoa v Tonga
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:03 pm
by Charriots Offiah
Dreamteam wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:52 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:41 pm
Dreamteam wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:19 pm
Papalii is better than both of those easy but this is the best I’ve seen Tom play for England and same with hill. There will still be people crying about hill starting in the semis ignoring how bang average Knowles and lees have been
If Burgess and Hill maintain their form I think England are red hot favourites next week. I think Knowles had a good game against PNG, Lees for me is bang average. Welsby needs to step up to the mark, he was average behind a dominant pack.
Definitely should be beating that Samoan team next week. I was actually glad they won in the end Tonga have a lot of front in the pack that could easily match us where in the Samoan team there’s a few lads getting on. I don’t mind welsby not having a great game it’s his first game back with George since the first game so understandable. The conditions also suited George a lot more as well. People moaning about cooper but he had double post contact meters than lees. Lees also missed 8 tackles. How bad is that for an interchange prop
Welsby has to run the ball/take it to the line, his only play on Saturday was to drop the ball off to Bateman. Thompson in place of Lees for me.
Re: Samoa v Tong
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:04 pm
by Charriots Offiah
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:41 pm
I think Burgess, Cooper & Hill, who think is playing his best rugby league for a long, long time, are perfect props.
I would have had a couple of other forwards rather than Lees & Batchelor. The only Saints player deserving of his place IMO is Makinson. Welsby is too immature to play internationals!
To be fair to Welsby he is not a half back.
Re: Samoa v Tong
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:24 pm
by josie andrews
Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:04 pm
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:41 pm
I think Burgess, Cooper & Hill, who think is playing his best rugby league for a long, long time, are perfect props.
I would have had a couple of other forwards rather than Lees & Batchelor. The only Saints player deserving of his place IMO is Makinson. Welsby is too immature to play internationals!
To be fair to Welsby he is not a half back.
That’s what he is supposed to be! He can play anywhere in the back line can ‘golden child’!
Re: Samoa v Tong
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:41 pm
by Charriots Offiah
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:24 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:04 pm
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:41 pm
I think Burgess, Cooper & Hill, who think is playing his best rugby league for a long, long time, are perfect props.
I would have had a couple of other forwards rather than Lees & Batchelor. The only Saints player deserving of his place IMO is Makinson. Welsby is too immature to play internationals!
To be fair to Welsby he is not a half back.
That’s what he is supposed to be! He can play anywhere in the back line can ‘golden child’!
If you listen to those idiots on TV you would think so.
Re: Samoa v Tonga
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:11 am
by moto748
Cracking game. I was pleased Samoa won, mostlly because their Penrith connection means a lot to a friend.
Re: Samoa v Tonga
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:47 am
by josie andrews
moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:11 am
Cracking game. I was pleased Samoa won, mostlly because their Penrith connection means a lot to a friend.
I’m glad Samoa won because Kristian Wolfe is the coach
Re: Samoa v Tonga
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 am
by archiekeith
moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:11 am
Cracking game. I was pleased Samoa won, mostlly because their Penrith connection means a lot to a friend.
It certainly was moto. However some of the posts on this topic seem to be carryover from our drubbing of PNG apparently! Josie seems to have some sort of resentment for Welsby. Why? The lads a talented RL player. Where they play is down to the coach full stop!Lets not get into a similar situation we had concerning Powell. Not good. Our game v Samoa will test both teams and I see no reason for SW to change his Winning side from the one that decimated PNG.
