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Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:26 am

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:06 pm Its deffo worth trying but Wigan wont

they will play powell at 9 as long as he is physically capable of making the start of the game

end of discussion

Personally I don't think hooker is the key element of this formation. It's the halves and full back changes. In the past people have had doubts about Fields ability in the halves, but I don't think we've got any option at this point but to make this change now and allow him some space to develop as much as possible before the key moments in the season. For me, whether Cust or Powell are at hooker isn't going to make or break this.

to an extent hooker is critical in any formation. If Cust (or AN other hooker) can get good quality ball out at pace, then it makes a massive difference to the way the tackles can play out

if they are too slow, then it doesnt matter how else you setup then there is a good chance that the defence is going to be in your face / smashing you backwards

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:57 am

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:26 am

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:06 pm Its deffo worth trying but Wigan wont

they will play powell at 9 as long as he is physically capable of making the start of the game

end of discussion

Personally I don't think hooker is the key element of this formation. It's the halves and full back changes. In the past people have had doubts about Fields ability in the halves, but I don't think we've got any option at this point but to make this change now and allow him some space to develop as much as possible before the key moments in the season. For me, whether Cust or Powell are at hooker isn't going to make or break this.

to an extent hooker is critical in any formation. If Cust (or AN other hooker) can get good quality ball out at pace, then it makes a massive difference to the way the tackles can play out

if they are too slow, then it doesnt matter how else you setup then there is a good chance that the defence is going to be in your face / smashing you backwards

Of course hooker is critical,he is the first person with ball in hand after a tackle and has the choice to pass one way or the other or run from dummy half which of course Powell very rarely does.We are desperate for an effective number 9 and even though i ithink Field would be better at 6 than Cust who in my opinion has been a poor signing,it will not make a great deal of difference to our attack.

Who knows with the scenario of needing a pacy back the signing of Hampshire as cover 6/9 may prove to be genius

WIGIAN wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:24 am Who knows with the scenario of needing a pacy back the signing of Hampshire as cover 6/9 may prove to be genius

He hasn't played since the back end of June and isn't yet back in full training. I'm not massively optimistic

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:23 am

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:02 pm

Ggtt11 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:13 pm Anyone else think we play better with cust at 9 and jai in the half's with bevan at fullback?

For me it means bevans more involved in the game and at the same time they are both attacking the line in influencal positions?

And also Powell is on the bench, he offers nothing in attack and the opposite team know he's always going to pass and never go himself.

Cust is never a stand off in a month of Sundays.

So you like this idea, or not?

Or is it that every thread that is trying to discuss an interesting idea and see what people think about that idea is actually just an opportunity to have a dog at a player and not contribute to the discussion?

The thread is about “halfs” Mike and that’s what I commented on, what’s your problem? If you want to go off at a tangent then feel free.

But given that you have asked me a question I will answer. Forber should be playing. Is that ok?

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:57 am

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:26 am

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:06 pm Its deffo worth trying but Wigan wont

they will play powell at 9 as long as he is physically capable of making the start of the game

end of discussion

Personally I don't think hooker is the key element of this formation. It's the halves and full back changes. In the past people have had doubts about Fields ability in the halves, but I don't think we've got any option at this point but to make this change now and allow him some space to develop as much as possible before the key moments in the season. For me, whether Cust or Powell are at hooker isn't going to make or break this.

to an extent hooker is critical in any formation. If Cust (or AN other hooker) can get good quality ball out at pace, then it makes a massive difference to the way the tackles can play out

if they are too slow, then it doesnt matter how else you setup then there is a good chance that the defence is going to be in your face / smashing you backwards

Martin Dermott was the best hooker I’ve seen at Wigan. The crispness, quality and timing of his passes were exemplary. Martin wasn’t a running 9 but his distribution made a massive difference to the team.

Our issues come down to poor recruitment. If anyone had watched Cust in the NRL they would have known he wasn’t a stand off but an hooker.

Blackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:28 am

WIGIAN wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:24 am Who knows with the scenario of needing a pacy back the signing of Hampshire as cover 6/9 may prove to be genius

He hasn't played since the back end of June and isn't yet back in full training. I'm not massively optimistic

I think Rocky is our best option. He has a lot of qualities that Cust doesn’t possess.

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:34 pm

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:23 am

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:02 pm

Cust is never a stand off in a month of Sundays.

So you like this idea, or not?

Or is it that every thread that is trying to discuss an interesting idea and see what people think about that idea is actually just an opportunity to have a dog at a player and not contribute to the discussion?

The thread is about “halfs” Mike and that’s what I commented on, what’s your problem? If you want to go off at a tangent then feel free.

But given that you have asked me a question I will answer. Forber should be playing. Is that ok?

So what do you think about the actual thread though?

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:43 pm

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:57 am

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:26 am

Personally I don't think hooker is the key element of this formation. It's the halves and full back changes. In the past people have had doubts about Fields ability in the halves, but I don't think we've got any option at this point but to make this change now and allow him some space to develop as much as possible before the key moments in the season. For me, whether Cust or Powell are at hooker isn't going to make or break this.

to an extent hooker is critical in any formation. If Cust (or AN other hooker) can get good quality ball out at pace, then it makes a massive difference to the way the tackles can play out

if they are too slow, then it doesnt matter how else you setup then there is a good chance that the defence is going to be in your face / smashing you backwards

Martin Dermott was the best hooker I’ve seen at Wigan. The crispness, quality and timing of his passes were exemplary. Martin wasn’t a running 9 but his distribution made a massive difference to the team.

Our issues come down to poor recruitment. If anyone had watched Cust in the NRL they would have known he wasn’t a stand off but an hooker.

i wouldnt argue with you there, and that was really the point i was making / adding to Mikes point. It doesnt matter what combination of 1,6,7 and 13 we have, if the ball is painfully slow from acting half (predominantly no9), then there is a good chance they are going to be negated as the defence will be in their faces. We can get away with it against the poorer teams, but if we were to play v Saints or in the NRL week in week out, there is no way we could manage with slow distribution from our 9

Ggtt11 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:13 pm Anyone else think we play better with cust at 9 and jai in the half's with bevan at fullback?

For me it means bevans more involved in the game and at the same time they are both attacking the line in influencal positions?

And also Powell is on the bench, he offers nothing in attack and the opposite team know he's always going to pass and never go himself.

19 runs from dummy half so far this season must be a case of "lies, damn lies and statistics" I guess?