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Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:00 pm
by Superb Chops
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
If your club has been threatened several times with bankruptcy & the situation for the reasoning behind the decision is explained fully surely to God anyone who supports their club would understand their reasoning in the interests of the club for one game!
The Latics haven't faced bankruptcy several times. On the one occasion they went into admin in 2020, over £750,000 was collectively raised under the organisation of the supporters' club. Not easy during Covid lockdowns.
Set against that context, maybe the problem is the supporters were shifted without notice?
That tells them they don't have a say, however much time, effort and money their support has entailed.
That's reinforced when you consider a digital consultation could have been done easily beforehand with those impacted.
After all, those running both Wigan clubs have made their wealth through data.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:32 pm
by josie andrews
Superb Chops wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:00 pm
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
If your club has been threatened several times with bankruptcy & the situation for the reasoning behind the decision is explained fully surely to God anyone who supports their club would understand their reasoning in the interests of the club for one game!
The Latics haven't faced bankruptcy several times. On the one occasion they went into admin in 2020, over £750,000 was collectively raised under the organisation of the supporters' club. Not easy during Covid lockdowns.
Set against that context, maybe the problem is the supporters were shifted without notice?
That tells them they don't have a say, however much time, effort and money their support has entailed.
That's reinforced when you consider a digital consultation could have been done easily beforehand with those impacted.
After all, those running both Wigan clubs have made their wealth through data.
Thought they’d been into administration twice!

Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:13 pm
by Mike
Dnt they have a history of going bust and reforming? As the original wigan rugby team did to be fair.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:50 pm
by DaveO
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:22 pm
josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:17 pm
Pathetic from these so called loyal & diehard fans IMO
It’s one game ffs!
It’s as if they would prefer the club to lose massive amounts of money from the sale of tickets & purchases on the concourses of the East stand from Man U supporters for one game just so they can sit in their own seat.
They would not lose money, just not make as much.
And if you were not allowed to claim the seat associated with your season ticket for a cup came you would not go ballistic? Of course you would!
We have much lower crowds for cup games and I am sure it would be cheaper to close the East Stand (which would amount to the same thing as giving it over to rival fans as is the case with Latics) so be careful flinging the brick bats in case it happens to you in future.
If your club has been threatened several times with bankruptcy & the situation for the reasoning behind the decision is explained fully surely to God anyone who supports their club would understand their reasoning in the interests of the club for one game!
Are they facing bankruptcy now? No. So it is just about maximising income for one game and if Wigan Warriors wanted to do the same or just save some money by not opening the East Stand, you would in my opinion go ballistic if you were denied your seat regardless of how the club explained it.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 pm
by jobo
Too many knuckle draggers in football. If it was otherwise, the fans could sit together and everyone could keep their favourite seat.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:47 pm
by josie andrews
DaveO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:50 pm
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:22 pm
They would not lose money, just not make as much.
And if you were not allowed to claim the seat associated with your season ticket for a cup came you would not go ballistic? Of course you would!
We have much lower crowds for cup games and I am sure it would be cheaper to close the East Stand (which would amount to the same thing as giving it over to rival fans as is the case with Latics) so be careful flinging the brick bats in case it happens to you in future.
If your club has been threatened several times with bankruptcy & the situation for the reasoning behind the decision is explained fully surely to God anyone who supports their club would understand their reasoning in the interests of the club for one game!
Are they facing bankruptcy now? No. So it is just about maximising income for one game and if Wigan Warriors wanted to do the same or just save some money by not opening the East Stand, you would in my opinion go ballistic if you were denied your seat regardless of how the club explained it.
So just because we have a billionaire owner for both clubs now, we don’t have to worry about the clubs "maximising income & making money?? They can keep running at a loss, it will be okay Mike will bail us out!
If opposing football fans could sit in the same stand as we do & have done in the past & present, there wouldn’t be a problem would there, but they can’t!
We can’t keep expecting wealthy owners to keep putting their hands in their pockets because a couple of hundred fans moan about not sitting in their own seat for one game!
AND NO! I wouldn’t go fecking BALLISTIC! That’s the second time you’ve said that to me in this thread!!
The Rugby League club has to maximise its potential to raise income, if the reasoning is explained fully & it’s just for one game it WOULDN’T make me go BALLISTIC. I’d be like a ‘normal’ person & accept the clubs reasoning! IN MY OPINION!

Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:24 pm
by Blackpool_Pie
jobo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 pm
Too many knuckle draggers in football. If it was otherwise, the fans could sit together and everyone could keep their favourite seat.
I don't think we, as RL fans, can look down our noses at the behavior of football fans too much.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:01 pm
by Mass
Looking at the crowd at the 'tics' game today they won't have to move many fans anyway
Or
Have they got confused and boycotted the wrong game

Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:20 am
by Superb Chops
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
Thought they’d been into administration twice!
No, that is also wrong.
You are seemingly mistaking administration for the previous owner repeatedly failing to pay wages promptly.
If the Latics had gone into admin again last summer this season’s points deduction would’ve been more than an eight point penalty. The fact they didn’t is, in part, down to their supporters’ club efforts, as acknowledged by Danson on takeover.
On the main point, people have common rights and guarantees when they pay for an item.
The club knows this but here acted with little regard by not doing a simple, prior consultation for those impacted.
After all these are supporters who likely contributed to a fundraiser which stopped the club folding just three-and-a-half years ago.
How odd, therefore, to repeatedly criticise fellow townsfolk and sports supporters in such circumstances.
Re: Wigan Athletic chairman responds to fan anger over Manchester United tie
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:17 am
by Mike
Superb Chops wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:20 am
josie andrews wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:55 am
Thought they’d been into administration twice!
No, that is also wrong.
You are seemingly mistaking administration for the previous owner repeatedly failing to pay wages promptly.
If the Latics had gone into admin again last summer this season’s points deduction would’ve been more than an eight point penalty. The fact they didn’t is, in part, down to their supporters’ club efforts, as acknowledged by Danson on takeover.
On the main point, people have common rights and guarantees when they pay for an item.
The club knows this but here acted with little regard by not doing a simple, prior consultation for those impacted.
After all these are supporters who likely contributed to a fundraiser which stopped the club folding just three-and-a-half years ago.
How odd, therefore, to repeatedly criticise fellow townsfolk and sports supporters in such circumstances.
Does the season ticket give you right to pay for the same seat at cup games? Or is that just an expectation?