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Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:18 am
by Wintergreen
The 1994 team was better.


The 2024 team is constrained by a salary cap.

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:26 am
by DaiJones
Wintergreen wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:18 am The 1994 team was better.


The 2024 team is constrained by a salary cap.

Agreed. Still the worst thing to happen to the sport in this country. When are we going to scrap / double it?

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:52 pm
by Hattster
Firestarter wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:43 pm
Beryl O'Neill wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:31 pm Has Steve Hampson been mentioned best full back I've ever seen in my opinion also in the eighties you could bring a player from overseas for just 1 or 2 matches to play in a special game St Helens if I remember right did it on a couple of occasions in Wembley finals can't recall exactly who.so you really can't compare teams of today with the Eighties and Nineties and no salary cap 👍💯🏆
I remember michael oconner and paul vauten playing for saints in a final
You can't say that they played, although they did turn up :D

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:13 pm
by moto748
If I remember rightly in that game, O'Connor in particular didn't get a sniff.

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 pm
by Barney841
Not even a debate for me. 94 hammers the 24. The talent in that 94 team was unbelievable

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:49 pm
by widdenoldboy
Barney841 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 pm Not even a debate for me. 94 hammers the 24. The talent in that 94 team was unbelievable
Hmm, the 94 wins felt more of an achievement at the time.

WCC win was unique as it came at the end of our season (so we had a few out injured) , played away and at the perfect time for the Broncos (mid season for them) and we had a new coach.

Championship - top on points difference over Bradford& Warrington (I'd forgotten about that).
CC final - tough encounter v Leeds
Premiership Final - tough win over Castleford

We actually got tanked in the Regal Trophy final v Castleford!!

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:39 pm
by widdenoldboy
widdenoldboy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:49 pm
Barney841 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 pm Not even a debate for me. 94 hammers the 24. The talent in that 94 team was unbelievable
Hmm, the 94 wins felt more of an achievement at the time.

WCC win was unique as it came at the end of our season (so we had a few out injured) , played away and at the perfect time for the Broncos (mid season for them) and we had a new coach.

Championship - top on points difference over Bradford& Warrington (I'd forgotten about that).
CC final - tough encounter v Leeds
Premiership Final - tough win over Castleford

We actually got tanked in the Regal Trophy final v Castleford!!
Oh dear, got that all wrong, should have been:

Regal Trophy - big win over Warrington
Championship - top over Leeds
CC final - big win v Leeds
Premiership Final - very big win over Leeds

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:55 am
by Firestarter
Stanfax wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:28 pm And lost 27-0...
Never said they didnt but both never really did owt all the time they were there

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:43 am
by fozzie58
You can’t compare eras and for me it’s silly to try I’d say this it was easy buying a full time team in a part time sport and bulldoze teams but for me the way Wigan have brought so many kids through and bought very wisely from the top table of talent means for me is a much bigger achievement

Re: Ok: 1994 or 2024?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:09 pm
by DaveO
fozzie58 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:43 am You can’t compare eras and for me it’s silly to try I’d say this it was easy buying a full time team in a part time sport and bulldoze teams but for me the way Wigan have brought so many kids through and bought very wisely from the top table of talent means for me is a much bigger achievement
Nkt this they bought the trophies again. That is a myth peddled by other teams fans. Leeds were full time by then and most other teams at the top such as Saints had players whose only job was playing RL. There were very few semi pro players in the top sides.

In any case it is arguable that the opposition was closer to winning then than now. I can’t remember if it was 94 but one season Warrington beat Wigan home and away and those were the only two games Wigan lost. Des Drummond was playing for 5em at the time. Warrington were a far better side then than in recent seasons.

Then there was Widnes before that who enticed top RU internationals from Wales such as Devereux and Davis as well as having home grown talent like Myler and others.

The idea the sport was part time by 94 is nuts.