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josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:07 pm

KieronC wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:25 pm

josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:00 pm They’ve one eye on Vegas IMO!

Hi Josie! Do you mean that they were holding back a bit last night?

I know you've seen different incarnations of the reserves and first team so you're one of the best people to ask. In your opinion, do you think Peet's coaching style is the same now as it was when he was working with other age groups?

I felt last night was too much about Vegas instead of concentrating on it being a The Battle of The Borough & the opening night of SL & not about a game two weeks away! IMO of course!

Not so much about holding back but everything has been about Vegas, I felt it was a bit over the top!

But you have to give credit to Leigh.

That had nothing to do with the coaching style. I think Matt Peet has matured as a coach. It’s bound to be different dealing with "men" as it is with younger players. Hope that answers your question?

Thanks, Josie. That certainly answers the bit about Vegas. I'm still none the wiser about how similar the reserve team and the first team are stylistically but I hadn't considered the difference dealing with different age groups.

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:48 pm

southportcdm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:30 pm The Vegas game could be a problem next week too.

Someone on Facebook was going on about a Wigan fan who had odds of 120–1 on a bet for Wigan to lose the first four games.

I thought that was a bit mad but I can almost see the logic. The 50/50 games are the one in Vegas and the one we just lost v Leigh. One down, three to go.

The game before Vegas is an assumed loss if the attitude is they are all on the plane and the one after is an assumed loss if they are jet lagged and go on the piss in Vegas.

Probably worth a tenner at 120-1 if you bet against your own team which I never do on principle.

Wigan were 1/9 to beat Leigh.

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:39 pm

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:48 pm

southportcdm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:30 pm The Vegas game could be a problem next week too.

Someone on Facebook was going on about a Wigan fan who had odds of 120–1 on a bet for Wigan to lose the first four games.

I thought that was a bit mad but I can almost see the logic. The 50/50 games are the one in Vegas and the one we just lost v Leigh. One down, three to go.

The game before Vegas is an assumed loss if the attitude is they are all on the plane and the one after is an assumed loss if they are jet lagged and go on the piss in Vegas.

Probably worth a tenner at 120-1 if you bet against your own team which I never do on principle.

Wigan were 1/9 to beat Leigh.

Turns out the punters were over optimistic!

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:39 pm

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:48 pm

southportcdm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:30 pm The Vegas game could be a problem next week too.

Someone on Facebook was going on about a Wigan fan who had odds of 120–1 on a bet for Wigan to lose the first four games.

I thought that was a bit mad but I can almost see the logic. The 50/50 games are the one in Vegas and the one we just lost v Leigh. One down, three to go.

The game before Vegas is an assumed loss if the attitude is they are all on the plane and the one after is an assumed loss if they are jet lagged and go on the piss in Vegas.

Probably worth a tenner at 120-1 if you bet against your own team which I never do on principle.

Wigan were 1/9 to beat Leigh.

I wish I had known about that 120/1 - I have long thought there was a very good chance indeed we will lose them all. The first 2 because they are all saving themselves for the pointless jolly, and the last one because of jet lag/travelling long haul twice in a week. With our best chance being in Vegas - as Wire may treat it as as much of a holiday as we are. Oh, and that will be 3 home games lost if so in our first 4.

They have done more than enough to do what they like but, if so, the LLS will be pretty much gone (especially having seen Saints fill their boots, in what is essentially a 3 point win).

Oh and on tactics and style of play, I think that has evolved over time. In a good way.

Exiled Wiganer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:41 pm

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:39 pm

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:48 pm

Someone on Facebook was going on about a Wigan fan who had odds of 120–1 on a bet for Wigan to lose the first four games.

I thought that was a bit mad but I can almost see the logic. The 50/50 games are the one in Vegas and the one we just lost v Leigh. One down, three to go.

The game before Vegas is an assumed loss if the attitude is they are all on the plane and the one after is an assumed loss if they are jet lagged and go on the piss in Vegas.

Probably worth a tenner at 120-1 if you bet against your own team which I never do on principle.

Wigan were 1/9 to beat Leigh.

I wish I had known about that 120/1 - I have long thought there was a very good chance indeed we will lose them all. The first 2 because they are all saving themselves for the pointless jolly, and the last one because of jet lag/travelling long haul twice in a week. With our best chance being in Vegas - as Wire may treat it as as much of a holiday as we are. Oh, and that will be 3 home games lost if so in our first 4.

They have done more than enough to do what they like but, if so, the LLS will be pretty much gone (especially having seen Saints fill their boots, in what is essentially a 3 point win).

Let’s see what happens, I don’t understand why anyone would want to write this team off.

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:29 am

Exiled Wiganer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:41 pm

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:39 pm

Wigan were 1/9 to beat Leigh.

I wish I had known about that 120/1 - I have long thought there was a very good chance indeed we will lose them all. The first 2 because they are all saving themselves for the pointless jolly, and the last one because of jet lag/travelling long haul twice in a week. With our best chance being in Vegas - as Wire may treat it as as much of a holiday as we are. Oh, and that will be 3 home games lost if so in our first 4.

They have done more than enough to do what they like but, if so, the LLS will be pretty much gone (especially having seen Saints fill their boots, in what is essentially a 3 point win).

Let’s see what happens, I don’t understand why anyone would want to write this team off.

The argument is inconsistent too. The idea that the players are writing off the first two games to get to Vegas because it's a big event, and then that they're not taking Vegas seriously are opposites and both are required to lose the first four games. I'd say losing the match after Vegas is pretty likely, but the build up should be similar to the WCC where we try to play into form to peak for Vegas and then dip slightly afterwards. Last season we managed without any significant dip and that's what made the season remarkable.

southportcdm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:30 pm The Vegas game could be a problem next week too. They're all desperate to get to Vegas and, a bit like the match before a cup final, the players will be keen to avoid injury or suspension. I did think they all put in a lot of effort last night and lets not forget how cold it was. I'm sure the conditions played a part in the low risk game plan. I sometimes have to remind myself that they're not supermen. I shook hands with a couple of the lads after the match and they were freezing, not ideal for the moves they would have been running through in Portugal.

There is far too much concentration on a boys jolly to Vegas.

It a bloody league game for gods sake. Unless you are one of the small percentage lucky enough to afford the trip to Vegas 90% of wiganers couldnt care less.

Its just a jolly for the players and staff which wil bite us on the arse big time, just like the trip to aus did a few years ago.

I was just thinking of the Australian folly of a few years ago again the hard sell,though I’d agree not as bad as this vegas nonsense but it did effect the side and not just for a week or two I recall it took a good few weeks for the side to get anything like what they where capable of of the time I fear a repeat this time round,I don’t care who you are it is an awful to expect professional sportsmen to go thousands of miles away,train so the glad handing that’ll be expected train some more then play a game no doubt more glad handing that’ll then fly back get back to training etc,I fear it will be a rough few weeks.