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Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:48 pm
by Firestarter
Just seen a slow mo of the keighran incident.Ill tell you what rapana is a cery very lucky boy as it was very snidey and very intentional .I didnt quite see it properly until now.Rapana has always been a dirty so and so.Hopefully we smash him on the next meet

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:43 pm
by Caboosegg
Firestarter wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:19 am
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:09 am
buttmonkey2 wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:55 pm

I suppose that depends on who's call that was? If it was the medical team then indeed, questions should be asked. If it was Matty Peet's decision keeping him on the field, then this was some of his coaching naivety showing again.

At least this should bring an end to the 4 prop rotation plus added hooker to the forward loaded benches he keeps naming
What if he choose to stay on? What if it wasn't diagnosed during play.

Do you really believe that the medical team or coach would let him play if they were aware? The sames ones that pulled field off as a precaution...
He wasnt taking the goal kicks which was therefore down to him?
You can be injured enough to not goal kick but able.to still play.

What's more likely...
a medical proffesional ignored he was unfit to play.
A coach ignored he was unfit to play.
The player felt they could continue in a reduced capacity.

I know we like a good conspiracy but with the amount of times Peet takes players off for "precautions" I don't get why suddenly have people thinking he forced a player to continue injured. Seems completely against the tyoe of behaviour we see from Peet.

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:28 pm
by Firestarter
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:43 pm
Firestarter wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:19 am
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:09 am

What if he choose to stay on? What if it wasn't diagnosed during play.

Do you really believe that the medical team or coach would let him play if they were aware? The sames ones that pulled field off as a precaution...
He wasnt taking the goal kicks which was therefore down to him?
You can be injured enough to not goal kick but able.to still play.

What's more likely...
a medical proffesional ignored he was unfit to play.
A coach ignored he was unfit to play.
The player felt they could continue in a reduced capacity.

I know we like a good conspiracy but with the amount of times Peet takes players off for "precautions" I don't get why suddenly have people thinking he forced a player to continue injured. Seems completely against the tyoe of behaviour we see from Peet.
At no point did i say or think peet made him stay on.I do however think that if matty could make the decision again he would take him off.Obviously the field situation and bevan being ill( as josie said) made a massive difference to the call.Lets hope he has a quick and full recovery.It was just one of them games that everything went wrong at the wrong times.Lots of cudda wudda but we lost so hopefully we will beat leeds saturday

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:53 pm
by EagleEyePie
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:43 pm You can be injured enough to not goal kick but able.to still play.

What's more likely...
a medical proffesional ignored he was unfit to play.
A coach ignored he was unfit to play.
The player felt they could continue in a reduced capacity.

I know we like a good conspiracy but with the amount of times Peet takes players off for "precautions" I don't get why suddenly have people thinking he forced a player to continue injured. Seems completely against the tyoe of behaviour we see from Peet.
You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories to believe that maybe on this occasion the club didn't get their duty of care right.

Obviously players want to keep playing on, but there's a reason why those decisions shouldn't just be left to players themselves. We've got to grips with this when it comes to head injuries at least.

It doesn't take a medical professional to determine that Keighran was potentially seriously injured against Hull. Things like the location of the injury, the manner in which the injury was caused, the obvious discomfort of the player and the fact that he couldn't run should surely have been indicators that there was potentially a serious injury. The fact that the recovery time frame suggests this was at the more severe end also makes it seem worse. It's entirely possible playing on made the injury much worse.

When you compare that with Field feeling a 'tightness' in his hamstring and being immediately taken off as a precaution it's not unreasonable to wonder why the club didn't take the same safety first approach with Keighran. Even if he insisted that he was fit to keep playing the continued evidence that he wasn't okay throughout the game should have been enough reason to remove him from the field.

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:49 pm
by buttmonkey2
EagleEyePie wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:53 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:43 pm You can be injured enough to not goal kick but able.to still play.

What's more likely...
a medical proffesional ignored he was unfit to play.
A coach ignored he was unfit to play.
The player felt they could continue in a reduced capacity.

I know we like a good conspiracy but with the amount of times Peet takes players off for "precautions" I don't get why suddenly have people thinking he forced a player to continue injured. Seems completely against the tyoe of behaviour we see from Peet.
You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories to believe that maybe on this occasion the club didn't get their duty of care right.

Obviously players want to keep playing on, but there's a reason why those decisions shouldn't just be left to players themselves. We've got to grips with this when it comes to head injuries at least.

It doesn't take a medical professional to determine that Keighran was potentially seriously injured against Hull. Things like the location of the injury, the manner in which the injury was caused, the obvious discomfort of the player and the fact that he couldn't run should surely have been indicators that there was potentially a serious injury. The fact that the recovery time frame suggests this was at the more severe end also makes it seem worse. It's entirely possible playing on made the injury much worse.

When you compare that with Field feeling a 'tightness' in his hamstring and being immediately taken off as a precaution it's not unreasonable to wonder why the club didn't take the same safety first approach with Keighran. Even if he insisted that he was fit to keep playing the continued evidence that he wasn't okay throughout the game should have been enough reason to remove him from the field.
Totally agree with you.

The coach has to play the team he has named. If injuries dictated that we ended the match with props on the wing then so be it. That was down to the very limited bench selection often associated with Matty's teams. They are often very conservative and we have relied far too often on forwards dropping into the backs (when they had the pace to do that) or rotate the forwards.

Injuries spoiled that routine and no on here can gaslight me that the poor decisions in that game with the players was down to a "conspiracy theory". This was a case of losing too many backs to injury, not having any cover whatsoever on the bench and the unwillingness to have fit bodies on the field of play in unusual positions as we were still winning at the time

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:12 pm
by medlocke
Herbie Farnworth off contract end of 2026, should get in early and get signed to an ironclad deal

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:03 pm
by josie andrews
medlocke wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:12 pm Herbie Farnworth off contract end of 2026, should get in early and get signed to an ironclad deal
He won’t come back to the UK!

NRL clubs will be queuing up to sign him!

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:38 am
by moto748
josie andrews wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:03 pm
medlocke wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:12 pm Herbie Farnworth off contract end of 2026, should get in early and get signed to an ironclad deal
He won’t come back to the UK!

NRL clubs will be queuing up to sign him!
Yes, of course they will. The lad is a great player.

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:40 am
by moto748
EagleEyePie wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:53 pm
You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories to believe that maybe on this occasion the club didn't get their duty of care right.

Obviously players want to keep playing on, but there's a reason why those decisions shouldn't just be left to players themselves. We've got to grips with this when it comes to head injuries at least.

It doesn't take a medical professional to determine that Keighran was potentially seriously injured against Hull. Things like the location of the injury, the manner in which the injury was caused, the obvious discomfort of the player and the fact that he couldn't run should surely have been indicators that there was potentially a serious injury. The fact that the recovery time frame suggests this was at the more severe end also makes it seem worse. It's entirely possible playing on made the injury much worse.

When you compare that with Field feeling a 'tightness' in his hamstring and being immediately taken off as a precaution it's not unreasonable to wonder why the club didn't take the same safety first approach with Keighran. Even if he insisted that he was fit to keep playing the continued evidence that he wasn't okay throughout the game should have been enough reason to remove him from the field.
And maybe AK will reflect on that.

Re: Adam Keighran injury blow confirmed as Wigan Warriors boss provides latest on Jai Field

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:04 am
by medlocke
josie andrews wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:03 pm
medlocke wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:12 pm Herbie Farnworth off contract end of 2026, should get in early and get signed to an ironclad deal
He won’t come back to the UK!

NRL clubs will be queuing up to sign him!
:shock: