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Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:57 pm
by exile in Tiger country
Kat posted:
There were a couple of "security stewards" knocking around, but did f all! Just stood there with hands in pockets.
I'm not a big fan of stewards, as mostly they are jumped up little Hitlers with power complexes, but defend them in this situation, if it was in the street, they have to stay out it, especially if wearing stewards clothes, as they would leave the club open to court action if someone was hurt because of something they did outside club proprty, it's like being a doornan at a nightclub, your jurisidiction ends at the exit of the property you work in.

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:24 pm
by Deb Ward
did any1 notice the cameraman behind the right goal 2 the cameras waving his arms in the air 2 put richards of when going 4 the conversion

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:31 pm
by Likely_Lad
Deb Ward posted:
did any1 notice the cameraman behind the right goal 2 the cameras waving his arms in the air 2 put richards of when going 4 the conversion
Someone get that sent in to Soccer a.m.'s all-sports show!

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:09 am
by LiL_WaRrIoR
Today i did see a bit of fighting but i didn't hang around! it was a shame the way abuse was hurled at us as we were walking through the streets from people in cars and even a public bus driver with a bus full of people :o

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:52 am
by DaveO
exile in Tiger country posted:
I'm not a big fan of stewards, as mostly they are jumped up little Hitlers with power complexes, but defend them in this situation, if it was in the street, they have to stay out it, especially if wearing stewards clothes, as they would leave the club open to court action if someone was hurt because of something they did outside club proprty, it's like being a doornan at a nightclub, your jurisidiction ends at the exit of the property you work in.
Therin lies the problem. There seems little regard for what goes on outside the ground.

I am convinced all the soccer pundits such as Liniker (spelling?) etc never mention the violence at soccer because inside the ground it is stewarded and the BBC or whoever don't have cameras outside.

It is a head in the sand approach and I would like to think if violence is increasing after RL matches the RFL would look into it rather than adopt the same aproach of ignoring it.

Dave

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:22 pm
by Antwigan
I was on the (public) bus at ringside when it all kicked off. The Policeman was silly in his actions perhaps as he acted alone and 'jumped' straight in rather than waiting for his back up (seconds away). A much more united front by the police would have created fear and quelled the situation more. But I suppose he'd have been vilified for not doing enough if he'd have waited. No excuse for those actions people. And to do it in front of a camera, well, I will expect those people brought to justice.
PS. I was on middle? of the 3 busses and the there was no abuse thrown at ANYONE on this one. It was full of Wiganers.

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:29 pm
by FROM A TO B
exile in Tiger country posted:
Kat posted:
There were a couple of "security stewards" knocking around, but did f all! Just stood there with hands in pockets.
I'm not a big fan of stewards, as mostly they are jumped up little Hitlers with power complexes.
Stewards at the JJB do a marvelous job. Just imagine the carnage that would happen of we walked on the concrete at the front of the East stand!

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:30 pm
by Antwigan
:lol:

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:38 pm
by GeoffN
FROM A TO B posted:
exile in Tiger country posted:
Stewards at the JJB do a marvelous job. Just imagine the carnage that would happen of we walked on the concrete at the front of the East stand!
Or even, horror of horrors, lit up a ciggy!

Good point about the incidents outside grounds not getting publicised - I often take the train into Manchester when there's a Latics home game on later, and there are hundreds of police lining the route from the station to the ground. For Warriors home games there's not a copper in sight.

Re: Fighting again...

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:51 pm
by WiganWarrior
It would have been worse as the amount of trouble causes in the stains fans would have hated seeing how even though we got beat we were still singing and enojoying ourselves they couldnt understand how they werent getting to us. So they resorted to fighting