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Re: RFL slur

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:28 pm
by dads58
seems to me JJ that somebody (in the words of the rfl disciplinary) Has a case to answer. It is either MO or the RFL surely if we push it something can come to a head?

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:31 pm
by jinkin jimmy
I agree somebody is at fault but don't expect Mo or the RFL to own up any time soon!!

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:42 pm
by dads58
I am a bit passionate about this. Unfortunately I have to agree that we are not likely to see anybody carrying the can. What gets to me is that we have been taking some serious flack all season from other clubs supporters, called cheats for buying players to paying off refs. We can laugh this off coz we know its all I Hate Wigan retoric. The difference with this is that it is our sports governing body who have effectively called us the worst cheats in the game.
I really feel that this has to be cleared up. I was born in Wigan, I still work in Wigan and an proud of my rugby team. I get to all the home games and as many of the aways as I can. I take this personal!!

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:15 pm
by Bring on the Warriors
It says in the rugby league express that we didn't 'immediately come clean about the payments it had made to it's players'. Does this mean that we tried to hide the fact that we had gone over the cap? It also says that a letter containing a players contract ended up on the desk of another super league chief executive and they handed it over to the RFL.

Does this mean that we lied about the amount we were paying a player?

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:55 pm
by dads58
If this is the case then we deserve everything we got. Its a pity the offending culprit wasnt mentioned in despatches. Unfortunately the action of the few stain the reputation of us all and as a club the offending person/persons should be dealt with by the club

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:19 am
by antonlevay
how about mo or mr whelan facing up to the rfl and demanding the facts under the public information act.as long as the facts are hidden people will not let go

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:30 am
by cpwigan
Folks. You need to accept other clubs dislike Wigan and totally ignore what rival supporters say. If you listened to them, we cheated from 1985 onwards. We just bought success blah blah blah.

Be proud, wind em up and tell them we are going to go above the salary cap every year.

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:13 am
by Stev0
antonlevay posted:
how about mo or mr whelan facing up to the rfl and demanding the facts under the public information act.as long as the facts are hidden people will not let go
Maybe Mo and Mr Whelan don't want the truth coming out, it may incriminate people closer to home.

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:39 am
by cpwigan
We should simply offer zero hospitality to the RFL. They can use other grounds for tests, semi finals and if any RFL official wants to visit the JJB remove the red carpet and make them pay like Jo Public.

Re: RFL slur

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:39 am
by DaveO
My understanding is that Wigan went to the RFL to ask for dispoensation to remove Lockers and Hocks salary cap and were told they could not as the rules do nmt allow it.

They then went on and signed players to repace these two.

The Bulls fans on rlfans are claiming that with Bradford their club didn't realise they were going over the cap because they expected the NZRL to be paying the wages of one player who was injured in a test and they didn't expect to be paying the wages of one player who they signed after the RFL knew he had failed a drugs test. So they were blaming the rfl for not teling them and lumbering them with having to pay his wages.

I find all of the above rather far fetched as I do their chairman Hoods statement Morely did not take them ovetr the salary cap. They must have realised before signing Morely just what wages they had paid out and were committed to pay.

So it seems to me the main difference is Wigan asked the RFL, got told no but sill broke the cap whereas Bradford just broke it without asking and then went in the hearng saying it was all a big mistake.

However both clubs have been found guilty of actions predjudicial to the game but I am not sure whayt action(s) Bradford tok other than breaking the cap that were predudicial. Unless it was signing orely when already over the cap.

I wonder if there will be anything in the program about this on Friday night.

Dave