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Exiled Wiganer wrote:I don't understand what you're complaining about at this stage Dave O. We are top of the league and just need to win 2 from 3 to stay there. Nothing in our form this year suggests we cannot do so. In doing so, we will at least match our record under Madge, and this with a rookie coach and a team shorn of a lot of experience. If the last 2 days have shown us anything it is that it is hard to use your squad so that you beat everyone as even the bottom teams can come and give you a hard time. Ask Wire and FC. You quote Widnes repeatedly, but every team has had at least one Widnes moment. You criticise Wane for not rotating his squad and then blame him for having misjudged resting players on one occasion. Things go wrong for all clubs over the course of the year. The best team is the one for him things go wrong on fewest occasions.
Wane has done and is doing a brilliant job. If anyone had said at he start of the season that, at worst we'd have to win 2 out of our last 3 games to win the LLS, we'd all have been ecstatic.

I agree with everything you say but and it is a big but we just have not reached the highs we reached in June and we are not preforming as well as we need to do to be considerd as pertential grand final winners. Wane has said for the last few weeks we are not playing at 100% and he cant explain why. The Wolves match should be used as a big wake up call and warning that we need to change our sloppy play and go back to basics which Madge would do and sure up our deffence and stop the mistakes from happening. This would make us unatractive to watch but make us harder to be broke down and be defeated by top teams like Wolves

Everyone seems to have forgotten that when we played Warrington last year at this stage it was one week after our challenge cup final, this year they got to play us two weeks before their trip down Wembley way and that made a huge difference both last year and this but it is no point in making comparisons either, we have to deal with the here and now. I agree we have not been at our best for a good few weeks now but how many other teams could have coped with the loss of Pat Richards, Thomas Leuluia, Harrison Hansen, Gil Dudson the way he was playing and various others who have been injured along the way. Was it the Hull match when it was said that several players were having to play with pain killing injections?
Along with everyone else I have been disappointed that we haven't been able to play the way we were back in June all the time but the reasons are obvious and it's now looking like we will get some important players back for the start of the play offs and our team should then have a higher proportion of fresh, class players than most. Either way I reckon Shaun Wane has done a great job, he's made a couple of errors but he is human and the man who never made a mistake is yet to be born so all in all I reckon we have a lot to be pleased about

highland convert wrote: Three consecutive stains derby matches. Then Leeds in the final.

And that just highlights the nonsense that is the playoffs format!

Kittwazzer wrote:

highland convert wrote: Three consecutive stains derby matches. Then Leeds in the final.

And that just highlights the nonsense that is the playoffs format!

Correct. When is a derby no longer a derby?

When it is played up to six times a year

Having said that IF we finish top with Wire 2nd and if Saints finish 3rd it would be Wire against Saints and us against whoever comes 4th wouldn't it?