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Mike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:06 am

DaveO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:14 pm

WIGIAN13 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:43 pm Think theres some major over reaction here we scored two decent tries gave them two one of which was ridiculous Leeds did not deserve those points. Its clear Bev at FB is easier to defend but should have won that . Im not sure Connor passed backwards all game . Walters was great I thought as I thought was Leeming again seems I'm in the minority there .... Jai's scan was clear . Not pressing the panic button just yet it happens. Stop talking about Vegas its done sick of hearing it Warrington beat Stains last night.

Maybe the club should stop talking about Vegas. You would have thought we had won a GF the way it has banged on about it. Now they are talking about what happens next season. Its a ridiculous distraction.

As it is early season form has been shocking. Lost to Leigh and Leeds and out of the cup at the first hurdle. I do not think people are over reacting.

If we go on and win the GF would you think people were over-reacting at this point? Probably not TBH, I can't see it. This is exactly what happened last year when we weren't at our best in every single game. "Peet out - can't coach". "Not going to win anything may as well give up this year". "All the players are crap". When we've lost 5 or 6 in a row give me a shout. The expectation that a squad can be at their very best in every single match is sooo unrealistic IMO, and yet people still cling to it.

I guess the question has to be did we win because of Peet or in spite of him?

We have easily the best squad in the competition, and some of the "tactics" on display thus far have been, let's say "odd".

I don't think anyone would expect a squad to be at it's very best all the time. In fact the structure of the competition means it would be foolish to attempt that.

However, choosing a prop who only plays 15 mins and in that time looks reluctant to take the ball up. Picking a bench.......then not using it.

That has nothing to do with peaking at the right time. I think it's only fair for fans to question that.

We lost by a very narrow defeat and when you look at their tries, we spilled the ball 5 metres out from our line and they picked it up and scored and then a freaky header of the ball (which really should have been ruled out years ago) and they got to the ball before us, whereas we scored well worked tries.

They mentioned the Ryan Hall header on the Matty Johns show on Sunday night, then showed the Saints one from years ago, which was an intentional header forward for them to score, I think if it comes off any part of a player above the waist when contesting for a kick and goes forward it should be a knock on.

We brought some of the penalty count on ourselves at times, but not helped by the fact as people have said, we get very few penalties awarded to us which is a mystery to all. But as is always said, you play the conditions whether it is due to the weather or the referee, you have to play your own game and we looked a bit lost a times.

Think the problem is you can expect a few bad results but we did not get a reaction to the Hull game the forwards need a kick up a***

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:21 am

Mike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:06 am

DaveO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:14 pm

Maybe the club should stop talking about Vegas. You would have thought we had won a GF the way it has banged on about it. Now they are talking about what happens next season. Its a ridiculous distraction.

As it is early season form has been shocking. Lost to Leigh and Leeds and out of the cup at the first hurdle. I do not think people are over reacting.

If we go on and win the GF would you think people were over-reacting at this point? Probably not TBH, I can't see it. This is exactly what happened last year when we weren't at our best in every single game. "Peet out - can't coach". "Not going to win anything may as well give up this year". "All the players are crap". When we've lost 5 or 6 in a row give me a shout. The expectation that a squad can be at their very best in every single match is sooo unrealistic IMO, and yet people still cling to it.

I guess the question has to be did we win because of Peet or in spite of him?

We have easily the best squad in the competition, and some of the "tactics" on display thus far have been, let's say "odd".

I don't think anyone would expect a squad to be at it's very best all the time. In fact the structure of the competition means it would be foolish to attempt that.

However, choosing a prop who only plays 15 mins and in that time looks reluctant to take the ball up. Picking a bench.......then not using it.

That has nothing to do with peaking at the right time. I think it's only fair for fans to question that.

An interesting point of view - from what we have seen Peet is a willing learner so, big picture, I'm not overly worried. But I agree with the "However" - we have had a few notable defeats with subs not used or used for very short minutes - is there a connection?

As we play a fitness based game then we need to get a good spell out of bench forwards to rest the starting pack so they can bring us home.

My one criticism of Peet is that he's risk averse. He's shown a few times that he has a problem trusting his bench players when he believes we're at a crucial point in the game. On Saturday he obviously thought most of the middle 40 was crucial and opted to trust that the personnel on the field would be a better option even when they would clearly be tired rather than bringing on fresher but less trustworthy bench players. The alternative criticism, one which people levelled at Wane, is that you make subs by the clock without regard to what's going on in the game. Id prefer a balance and Peet has said he's got it wrong in the past with bench rotation. How ever I'm not sure he's learnt from it yet.

Mike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:27 pm My one criticism of Peet is that he's risk averse. He's shown a few times that he has a problem trusting his bench players when he believes we're at a crucial point in the game. On Saturday he obviously thought most of the middle 40 was crucial and opted to trust that the personnel on the field would be a better option even when they would clearly be tired rather than bringing on fresher but less trustworthy bench players. The alternative criticism, one which people levelled at Wane, is that you make subs by the clock without regard to what's going on in the game. Id prefer a balance and Peet has said he's got it wrong in the past with bench rotation. How ever I'm not sure he's learnt from it yet.

He always states that "we need to learn from it" following a loss, but I am not sure that we do

Not using Forber was a head scratcher, especially because I thought Leeming was having a bit of a mixed game and he made some errors in possession. I also don't see Leeming as somebody who is defensively rock solid, like Brad O'Neill is and therefore you're not going to be desperate to keep him on in a tight game.

There isn't much Peet has got wrong over his time but I would agree that his lack of trust in the odd sub here and there, has been a weakness.