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ddtftf posted:

gpartin posted:

The Pearl posted:
In Ian Lenagans BBC interview he said the credit note was over a 4 year period so that may explain part of the missing money. The players leaving surely should have allowed more than £140k cap space.

Unless, as has been suggested, we were well over the cap last year?

Don't you think that Mr Lenagan should be open with the fans & tell us the truth? that way he would have the respect from us that at last we have a true picture of the club finances and end all the speculation of hidden adjenda within the club, its about time the true facts are told.

jaws1 posted:

ddtftf posted:

gpartin posted: Unless, as has been suggested, we were well over the cap last year?

Don't you think that Mr Lenagan should be open with the fans & tell us the truth? that way he would have the respect from us that at last we have a true picture of the club finances and end all the speculation of hidden adjenda within the club, its about time the true facts are told.

I think IL has been open and told us the truth up to a point,.IL has a degree in mathematics and a astute business man and would have gone over the books with a fine tooth comb if he says that we have only £140.000 left on the cap then i believe him .Dont forget Coleys contract money would not be in that figure . Are we making up Barretts money now his Aussie money has dried up ???????
The players who deferred there wages could be on higher pay this season.

NICKYKISS posted:

Cruncher posted:

Sorry, but this is pure conjecture.

Of course it is mate. I have no inside knowledge or anything like that but serioulsy how else can the 'shortfall' be explained other then one of two ways.

The first one is that the 5 players mentioned were shareing about 180k or the other is that we must have broke the cap again.

I know which one i think is the correct one.

Cruncher posted:


There's another way: there are certain players in the team who'll be on pay-upgrades next year. Maybe considerable upgrades (all completely legal as long as it's stipulated in the original contract). Think about it.

NICKYKISS posted:

Cruncher posted:


There's another way: there are certain players in the team who'll be on pay-upgrades next year. Maybe considerable upgrades (all completely legal as long as it's stipulated in the original contract). Think about it.

It could well be the case but thats some upgrades Mo has been handing out to a set of players that last year nearly got us relegated and then this year didn't come up with the goods on a consistant basis.

If thats the case then he's made a bigger mess then even i thought possible.

It will all come out in the wash anyway and now is the time to look forward.

I'm excited about the prospect of this club in the 'long term'.

Cruncher posted:

NICKYKISS posted:

Cruncher posted:


There's another way: there are certain players in the team who'll be on pay-upgrades next year. Maybe considerable upgrades (all completely legal as long as it's stipulated in the original contract). Think about it.

It could well be the case but thats some upgrades Mo has been handing out to a set of players that last year nearly got us relegated and then this year didn't come up with the goods on a consistant basis.

If thats the case then he's made a bigger mess then even i thought possible.

It will all come out in the wash anyway and now is the time to look forward.

I'm excited about the prospect of this club in the 'long term'.

I agree, I think Mo's made a bit of a mess here. But looking on the bright side, imagine if it was still down to Mo to try and sort it out.

At least the guy now in charge has recognised that there's a problem, admitted it in public and is employing real business smarts to clean it all up.

It's very disappointing that a new era does not necessarily equate to exciting new players at the JJB, but that's only a short-term problem. There is still scope for new signings in 2008, albeit smaller ones than we were anticipating, and 2009 will be a very different matter.

In the meantime: Noble's staying, we're installed in the JJB for the next half-century, and there's nothing any Latics fan can do about it - how cool is that? - and we've increased club assets significantly by taking permanent possession of the rugby excellence centre at Orrell.

These are all good signs. I think there are grounds for optimism.

standishwarrior posted:

Cruncher posted:

NICKYKISS posted: It could well be the case but thats some upgrades Mo has been handing out to a set of players that last year nearly got us relegated and then this year didn't come up with the goods on a consistant basis.

If thats the case then he's made a bigger mess then even i thought possible.

It will all come out in the wash anyway and now is the time to look forward.

I'm excited about the prospect of this club in the 'long term'.

I agree, I think Mo's made a bit of a mess here. But looking on the bright side, imagine if it was still down to Mo to try and sort it out.

At least the guy now in charge has recognised that there's a problem, admitted it in public and is employing real business smarts to clean it all up.

It's very disappointing that a new era does not necessarily equate to exciting new players at the JJB, but that's only a short-term problem. There is still scope for new signings in 2008, albeit smaller ones than we were anticipating, and 2009 will be a very different matter.

In the meantime: Noble's staying, we're installed in the JJB for the next half-century, and there's nothing any Latics fan can do about it - how cool is that? - and we've increased club assets significantly by taking permanent possession of the rugby excellence centre at Orrell.

These are all good signs. I think there are grounds for optimism.

definatly!with a good centre then i dont know why people are writing next season off already.least we have someone in charge who knows what they are doing reguading the wages ect!it would be a disaster if mo was still here.

ancientnloyal posted:
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