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robjoenz wrote:

cpwigan wrote:Rob you are young and do not recall the BC period. A voluntary tackle is actually when you voluntarily go to ground and claim you are tackled without an opponent ever putting a hand on you. You still see some players raise their hands when a ball carrier does this. In the BC period you would get a penalty. in the AC period you will get nothing and the ball carrier will be given time to get up and surrender to a would be tackler or if the tackler even places a hand on the ball carrier it will be called tackle completed.

It irks us old timers but it is minor.

Anyhow I am in a good mood even with Mr Ganson. Let referees referee. If they make mistakes they make mistakes. NO to over analysing by their superiors/peers

Apologies... I'm living in 2008

I know what you mean though.

If it is any consolation the NRL referees are copping huge flak at the moment for similarly over analytical officiating. They have come up with some daft ideas over there too. Big move from the common fan to get rid of the video referee.

In 2008, Steve Ganson showed that you can referee sensibly. I doth my cap to the chubby one. Urghhh did I praise him. Wash my mouth out with bleach.

Did you read Karl Fitzpatrick Rob? Some good views IMO.

cpwigan wrote:If it is any consolation the NRL referees are copping huge flak at the moment for similarly over analytical officiating. They have come up with some daft ideas over there too. Big move from the common fan to get rid of the video referee.

In 2008, Steve Ganson showed that you can referee sensibly. I doth my cap to the chubby one. Urghhh did I praise him. Wash my mouth out with bleach.

Did you read Karl Fitzpatrick Rob? Some good views IMO.

What flak are they getting? I know they're being fussy with anything near the head area and at scrums - it hasn't struck me as anything that OTT though.

Read what?

robjoenz wrote:

cpwigan wrote:If it is any consolation the NRL referees are copping huge flak at the moment for similarly over analytical officiating. They have come up with some daft ideas over there too. Big move from the common fan to get rid of the video referee.

In 2008, Steve Ganson showed that you can referee sensibly. I doth my cap to the chubby one. Urghhh did I praise him. Wash my mouth out with bleach.

Did you read Karl Fitzpatrick Rob? Some good views IMO.

What flak are they getting? I know they're being fussy with anything near the head area and at scrums - it hasn't struck me as anything that OTT though.

Read what?

The NRL have introduced a new ruling where when a referee signals a scrum the video referee looks to see if the ball was lost or stripped. So the two packs form and wait. If the video referee signals stripped it can then be given as a penalty. Fans are not keen on stoppages.

Also something called passive offside. So say you kick the ball and chase after it. You might be onside and collect the ball but if one of your teamates was offside at the kick and then within the 10 when you got the ball you would be penalised for offside. Several tries have been ruled out because of it. The irony is that very often the person playing the ball and the hooker can be technically offside within the 10 when the first receiver grubber kicks.

Big hysteria over wrestling moves. The chicken wing is the latest one. Nothing in it though.

Fitzpatrick good interview in one of the 2 weekly RL newspapers.

cpwigan wrote:Also something called passive offside. So say you kick the ball and chase after it. You might be onside and collect the ball but if one of your teamates was offside at the kick and then within the 10 when you got the ball you would be penalised for offside. Several tries have been ruled out because of it. The irony is that very often the person playing the ball and the hooker can be technically offside within the 10 when the first receiver grubber kicks.

That's applied in SL too. Anyone offside at the kick and within 10 m (in a circle) of the receiver when the ball is received is classed as interfering.

Big hysteria over wrestling moves. The chicken wing is the latest one. Nothing in it though.

Oh yeah, I read about that one. I've noticed a couple of tackles similar in SL whereby the 'spare' arm is locked up behind the tackled player resulting in a slow PTB. The way I see these incidents is that if has potential to cause injury (some are designed to slow PTB - some look like they may result in dislocation) it should be penalised.