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Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:53 pm
by Kittwazzer
cpwigan wrote:It is just very exciting to think of Wigan getting the best NRL knowledge given how well Nathan Brown has done with IMO a poorer squad at Huddersfield.
As others have said a fitter squad along will get more wins and success.
It worries me when people keep mentioning Nathan Brown & Huddersfield. As much as I want to see success on the park, please God we don't turn out the style of rugby Huddersfield have become synoymous with!!
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:01 pm
by exile in Tiger country
Kittwazzer wrote:cpwigan wrote:It is just very exciting to think of Wigan getting the best NRL knowledge given how well Nathan Brown has done with IMO a poorer squad at Huddersfield.
As others have said a fitter squad along will get more wins and success.
It worries me when people keep mentioning Nathan Brown & Huddersfield. As much as I want to see success on the park, please God we don't turn out the style of rugby Huddersfield have become synoymous with!!
What style is that then? Winning rugby?
I want our team to be associated with that style of rugby please.
I'd take a boring win over a stylish loss any day of the week.
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:18 pm
by botica
With his qualifications poters think this guy can get what we need from our under performers of Fielden and Piggy but no-one mentions Karl Pryce?? Is he the lost cause or just asking too much
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:50 pm
by weststand-rich
Flog him. Flog em all.
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:42 pm
by gpartin
weststand-rich wrote:Flog him. Flog em all.
As in what you'd do to a dead horse
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:09 pm
by Jimlav
botica wrote:With his qualifications poters think this guy can get what we need from our under performers of Fielden and Piggy but no-one mentions Karl Pryce?? Is he the lost cause or just asking too much
i would love to see a FIT karl pyrce playing like he did at bradford. he has clear physical advantage on almost every player in the super league.
maguire could do worse than to work on pyrce. he would be a danger in the centre, or as a vainikolo type winger, but with real height to be a massive threat in the air like richards. lets hope he can work some magic on him.
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:26 am
by exile in Tiger country
Can you imagine a fit Karl Pryce playing as centre to Pat Richards wing? We could kick to that wing all game and be virtually guaranteed one of them would get the possession.
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:47 am
by DaveO
A poster by the name of Norweb posted the following in rlfans about MM:
hi ya,
I am a first time poster, long time reader to the cherry and white forum.
I live in Australia. Locally I'm a big Rooster fan (crap year, don't mention it) who wishes that we got Madge rather than Brian Smith.
But you got him, and we didn't, so i thought i'd give you a Sydney understanding of why Maguire is so highly considered and why i'm gutted.
Firstly he is a coach for whom every player wants to play for.
Secondly, he is fitness and discipline focused.
Thirdly his style is to build pressure and to "pull the trigger" only when necessary. this style doesn't need flashy halves or any particular position to be overplayed. the toilers can contribute as well as the special talents. as a fan i like this becuase at Easts we have a board that keeps trying to buy success with lots of poor recruitment choices to fill in the gaps created by poor coaching styles.
Fourthly, his columns in Big League have been a revelation for us fans. he writes about difficult topics such as bench use and defense patterns really simply.
reason Five, he seems to be an easy going bloke on TV which is a change from grumpy paternal figures like Brian Smith.
Reason 6, Maguire, Bellamy and Kearney have pushed the idea that coaching is a total organisation job. everything starts and ends with the coaching staff - front office, recruitment, fitness, community relations, fans involvement, specialist skills, eduication and welfare - they are all the domain of the head coach. a club wins a championship, a team only wins a game. thats the sort of motto we want at Easts (but aren't now going to get).
and finally becuase he has a reputation quite simply of being the cleverest bloke in Australia for tactics. at the Storm he was the attacking coach (not the backs coach as others have written). the Storm playbook is his invention, Bellamy confirmed that a few weeks ago on a radio interview. did you see the semi final of Storm versus Broncos? there was about 3 backline moves that had any league fan cheering. just clever stuff.
so, does any of this guarantee success - nup. Nothing guarantees success, but what we Easts fans want is a guy to shape the young lives and the old club into a coherent unified high performance culture. and thats what you'll get with MM. and its what i don't thijnk we'll now get at Easts with Bwian.
The Storm are a ridiculous young club. barely 12 years old. Yet their players play for each other and their jersey more than my club which is 102 years old. Thats the Bennett Way. Thats the Bellamy way. And now thats the Maguire way. and now, i dare say, that'll be the Wigan way.
Brian Smith assistants are the biggest faction of coaches out there.
Wayne Bennett assistants are the highest quality faction of coaches out there. Bellamy, Henjak, Maguire, Kearney.
Good luck to the C&W's next year. I'll be cheering from Sydney for youse all.
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:29 am
by Kittwazzer
Excellent read and very confidence-inspiring!
But I really hope that the 'Madge' sobriquet is quietly dropped!!
Re: Michael Maguire
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:15 pm
by exile in Tiger country
Kittwazzer wrote:Excellent read and very confidence-inspiring!
But I really hope that the
'Madge' sobriquet is quietly dropped!!
That's Australians for you, I guessing he'll either be Mick or Mike over here, although if he's as good as he promises to be "Lord Maguire of Wigan" might be a better nick-name