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Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:47 pm
by GeoffN
Kittwazzer wrote:Whenever payment is made by Credit Card, the retailer is charged a fee by the Card Provider. By this method, the card provider can ensure a profit from its customers who clear their outstanding balance every month. This can be between 1% and 5%. If the retailer wishes to pass this on, I believe they must inform the customer at point of sale. Asda, for instance, does not impose this charge at the checkout as they would simply lose too much trade. However, they will not accept payment for tobacco or cigarettes by Credit Card as the mark up would not cover the charge.
Everything you say is spot on except the above - I've always paid for cigs at Asda with a Credit card.
Debit Cards are an entirely different matter. It is the more up to date equivalent of paying by cheque. No charge should be levied for this method of payment because, from a retailers point of view, it is far more economical than handling the equivalent amount of cash. Electronic transactions cost peanuts by comparison. Going back to Asda, it is the reason why they always invite you to take cash on top of paying your bill; it reduces their cash handling costs!
If a charge is being levied, it is probably classed as a telephone booking charge and would perhaps cover the time and manpower to take details over the phone and complete the slip.
That said, it is still a rip off if you are charged per ticket and not per transaction!
And yes, I was a BANKER. Some would argue that I still am!!
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:34 pm
by DaveO
Kittwazzer wrote:Whenever payment is made by Credit Card, the retailer is charged a fee by the Card Provider. By this method, the card provider can ensure a profit from its customers who clear their outstanding balance every month. This can be between 1% and 5%. If the retailer wishes to pass this on, I believe they must inform the customer at point of sale. Asda, for instance, does not impose this charge at the checkout as they would simply lose too much trade. However, they will not accept payment for tobacco or cigarettes by Credit Card as the mark up would not cover the charge.
If you check your till receipt many retailers are actually charging you the fee. The receipt will say for example something like "Your total bill is £10.99, 2.5% of which you agree to pay to the card company" in a footnote. I forget the exact wording but the point is although you just bought something that had a list price of £10.99 with a card you are not penalised for doing so compared to someone who handed over £10.99 in cash. The price to you is the same whichever way you pay. The retailer takes the hit of the fee but for some reason they tell you it was actually you that paid it! In effect they sold you the goods for less then charged you the fee.
Wigan RL have chosen not to take the hit.
Debit Cards are an entirely different matter. It is the more up to date equivalent of paying by cheque. No charge should be levied for this method of payment because, from a retailers point of view, it is far more economical than handling the equivalent amount of cash. Electronic transactions cost peanuts by comparison. Going back to Asda, it is the reason why they always invite you to take cash on top of paying your bill; it reduces their cash handling costs!
It's more economical than handling cheques as well. Costs more to process cheques than a debit card payment yet there is no surcharge for cheques (or cash).
If a charge is being levied, it is probably classed as a telephone booking charge and would perhaps cover the time and manpower to take details over the phone and complete the slip.
That said, it is still a rip off if you are charged per ticket and not per transaction!
And yes, I was a BANKER. Some would argue that I still am!!
If you pay on-line there should be no charge for debit cards. It's the cheapest method of payment both to the club and the their bank.
Dave
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:55 am
by Dezzer 1952
just renewed my season tickets for next season. I personally went to the ticket office and was charged £2.50 per ticket. I was informed of the charge for cards, but presumed this was for credit card, therefore I presented my debit card and was still charged the fee. They will not get this money from me again as in future I will pay cash. I do not like being ripped off.
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:06 pm
by Susi
I really fail to see how they can justify charging you on your debit card in person, i would pursue the matter at my bank, then again it is whelan and he can walk on water alledgedly.
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:56 pm
by gillysmyhero
Kittwazzer wrote:Whenever payment is made by Credit Card, the retailer is charged a fee by the Card Provider. By this method, the card provider can ensure a profit from its customers who clear their outstanding balance every month. This can be between 1% and 5%. If the retailer wishes to pass this on, I believe they must inform the customer at point of sale. Asda, for instance, does not impose this charge at the checkout as they would simply lose too much trade. However, they will not accept payment for tobacco or cigarettes by Credit Card as the mark up would not cover the charge.
Debit Cards are an entirely different matter. It is the more up to date equivalent of paying by cheque. No charge should be levied for this method of payment because, from a retailers point of view, it is far more economical than handling the equivalent amount of cash. Electronic transactions cost peanuts by comparison. Going back to Asda, it is the reason why they always invite you to take cash on top of paying your bill; it reduces their cash handling costs!
If a charge is being levied, it is probably classed as a telephone booking charge and would perhaps cover the time and manpower to take details over the phone and complete the slip.
That said, it is still a rip off if you are charged per ticket and not per transaction!
And yes, I was a BANKER. Some would argue that I still am!!
You are charged per ticket not per transaction & your right it is a rip off.It cost me an extra tenner for four tickets.Even if paying by debit card they charge you.
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:22 pm
by gpartin
mrs feka wrote:I really fail to see how they can justify charging you on your debit card in person, i would pursue the matter at my bank, then again it is whelan and he can walk on water alledgedly.
Oh ye of little faith, of course he can
"Debit Card Surcharge
Your bank or building society will not charge you for using your debit card for purchases. However, there are certain stores and online retailers that may apply a surcharge if you pay by debit card; for example, train tickets purchased by debit card are often subject to a fee. This is often a small flat-rate fee, but could be a percentage of the transaction amount, which might increase the cost of your purchase by a considerable amount."
http://www.monetos.co.uk/financing/debit-cards/charges/
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:43 pm
by Susi
perhaps we should all pay in cash then, preflabyn 10 bob bits(50ps). that would cause a bit of fun,
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:18 pm
by ancientnloyal
I dont find any problems with the charges as 'thats the way it is' and legal. Surely people have known this for over a year now.
From posts I reckon we will have similar season ticket sales to last year but it's too early to see any growth yet
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:56 pm
by Dezzer 1952
Does anyone actually know who benefits from the £2.50 charge for renewing your season ticket. If that money goes to mr. whelan then I suggest that in future we pay by cash. I for one don't want to line his pockets any more than necessary. If WIGAN RL benefit fair enough!
Re: Season Ticket Renewals
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:17 pm
by cherrywarrior
I renewed mine at the start of last week but Ive not recieve my card yet, I heard that a few other people have got theirs though, any thoughts people?