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Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:41 am
by cpwigan
yoda warrior wrote:how about we're now the team to be shot at, we've had a wcc to distract us and the halves and back line have had to be swapped around more than at any point last year.
there's plenty of 'major differences' if you know what to look for.
:eusa2: Stop talking sense Yoda
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:41 am
by deancartwright1990
i think this is harsh there still settling in and limas had a good presence in defence and alot better than feka . hoffman had his worst game last night finch do the players not like him its like watching tim smith.. but part from mossop n tomkins at times they all was off bad tackling no urgancy could see that when they came out at half time.. was finch s 3rd game in 8 mnth n part first full game in 6 month better to play bad now and hit form at end of year ... we need tommy at 9 mm is good but inexperienced going open side when we have numbers on the short side n visa versa never running from dummy half we need to have more plays we have been snuffed out wi tomkins at fb wi that play we need more runners running different lines
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:44 am
by Kittwazzer
CP. You are in denial and grasping at straws!
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:44 am
by cpwigan
I just sent Eclipse the following email and as it has no secret handshake info I will share it
I honestly do not know what is happening. I am trying to find out if the rumours are true (my guess is most are absurd).
I am beginning to think it is part of what seems to be ingrained in the modern British sportsman/woman. In terms of RL; many, the majority of players are often lacking intelligence and away from RL are miscreants or social misfits. Hence, they are incredibly difficult to manage particularly as they age and they often stagnate or regress in player development. You know better than most how important attitude / desire are in this game / any game. Yes you need technique and a rugby brain but defence even attack is about putting your body on the line. Maybe British people are now fairly gutless

You see the reaction online, the desire to blame anything / everything. Sport reflects society I guess.
I was told before the Cats game, Mossop needs to have surgery on his shoulder. Personally, I think Davies should be used more and given a chance. I may be wrong but the players seem to have been conditioned differently this season, they are not unfit but more for the long haul so they peak at the CC, Play Offs (You still have to make them though

) You see how strong the players finish games but are quite dull at the start. People are blaming the Aussies etc but Wigan's worrying home form started last season and continues so the let's blame Finch campaign is stupid. We Brits love to blame somebody.
I am hoping and thinking the injuries, new players, pressure on Wigan re rules, different fitness regime, crowd (people talk about fabulous Brit support but it works both ways, very quick to turn)
Wigan / the rest of SL are showing IMO why we fail interntionally. No disrespect and he is a fabulous professional but when Beaver looks better than your whole forward pack then that says so much. Dureau is looking like Andrew Johns and whilst he had the odd fab game in Aus, Dureau is not Joey and had some nightmare games too. Wigan / Warrington supposedly our best teams both struggling. Saints better with youngsters (far less brainwashed). Just one thought Hudds went off the boil when Brown said he was going back to Aus, maybe there is some truth in terms of unrest re Madge to the Rabbits.
We Brits are embarassingly fickle
Regards
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:45 am
by cpwigan
Kittwazzer wrote:CP. You are in denial and grasping at straws!

The let's hate/blame Finch campaign must be the answer then
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:48 am
by deancartwright1990
okay you are right finch has played 3 games and hes not good enough so fickle give him time
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:50 am
by pedro
cpwigan wrote:Kittwazzer wrote:CP. You are in denial and grasping at straws!

The let's hate/blame Finch campaign must be the answer then
How can you defend last nights performance?....His ability to throw hospital balls is amazing, he can tackle like Doc Murray too
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:52 am
by cpwigan
I was always told a halfback either looks good or bad on the back of his forwards.
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:53 am
by deancartwright1990
it is a poor option the flat pass when we have the option of a second phase play and it hasnt workt for 3 game but its not all on finch we lost .
to play 3 origins 2 country origins and in the all stars he obviously has something
Re: 3 Bad Signings
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:54 am
by pedro
cpwigan wrote:I was always told a halfback either looks good or bad on the back of his forwards.
they laid the platform loads of times but his hospital balls cost at least 4 knock ons and there were numerous other 1st or 2nd tackles that went to ground.