Are fans to blame?

[cpwigan]

The volume of a concentrated minority (the away fans) will often drown out the less concentrated volume of a majority( home supporters)
At the DW if a chant starts halfway along the East stand, by the time the South stand have picked up on it, the originators have often ended or changed a chant.
The sheer size of the ground means ths is inevitable. A full North stand of 3000 vociferous away fans will often drown oput the home supporters.
Wigan's away supporters are usually those most vociferous at the DW, but as at the DW they are spread throughout 12,000 supporters, and not concentrated in one stand, as they usually are at an away game, they do not create the same wall of noise as they do whrn away from home.
It's just simple physics really.

A thousand in the North stand will drown out any Wigan support this should be the home stand IT HAS A SOLID ROOF unlike the South stand which has a pertial glass roof.

Never knew or realised that. Excellent point

[jaws1]

The volume of a concentrated minority (the away fans) will often drown out the less concentrated volume of a majority( home supporters)
At the DW if a chant starts halfway along the East stand, by the time the South stand have picked up on it, the originators have often ended or changed a chant.
The sheer size of the ground means ths is inevitable. A full North stand of 3000 vociferous away fans will often drown oput the home supporters.
Wigan's away supporters are usually those most vociferous at the DW, but as at the DW they are spread throughout 12,000 supporters, and not concentrated in one stand, as they usually are at an away game, they do not create the same wall of noise as they do whrn away from home.
It's just simple physics really.

A thousand in the North stand will drown out any Wigan support this should be the home stand IT HAS A SOLID ROOF unlike the South stand which has a pertial glass roof.

Never knew or realised that. Excellent point

http://www.dwstadium.co.uk/facts.php

[ancientnloyal]

How can you kill a crowd that is already dead at home?

[exile in Tiger country]

The volume of a concentrated minority (the away fans) will often drown out the less concentrated volume of a majority( home supporters)
At the DW if a chant starts halfway along the East stand, by the time the South stand have picked up on it, the originators have often ended or changed a chant.
The sheer size of the ground means ths is inevitable. A full North stand of 3000 vociferous away fans will often drown oput the home supporters.
Wigan's away supporters are usually those most vociferous at the DW, but as at the DW they are spread throughout 12,000 supporters, and not concentrated in one stand, as they usually are at an away game, they do not create the same wall of noise as they do whrn away from home.
It's just simple physics really.

Point taken Exile but I concur with Alex. Why no resounding 'Sam will tear you apart before kick off / after his early score' I fully accept the diffusion of support but when we avoided relegation, same scenario ground wise but a very different atmosphere.

It's not a recent phenomenon either. I can remember plenty at CP who would tell you Shaun Edwards was garbage etc etc, we all know fans at the DW who seem to be willing/hoping to find something to criticise/player to berate.

Unfortunately that is very true CP.
Being able to attend sporadically and going in South Stand, I sit in a simlar but by no means regular position at each game I attend.
Invariably within earshot will be someone, usually an older gent, flat cap, glasses etc, waiting for the player he has decided isn't fit to play for Wigan to make a mistake.
The player of "choice" could have the game of his life for 79 minutes, but make a minor error in the last seconds of the game and this bring out a torrent of abuse that is used as justification for the vilification that has gone on throughout the game.

[jaws1]

I think the point is that at away matches the speccies are congested in one area but at home they are spread about .The South stand do try but the East has been very quit this season .

[cpwigan]

I cannot recall where I watched it but the grounds was a foreign stadia and they had a fantastic section whereby fans could stand up in perfect safety but for European Champions League matches the barriers could be converted back to seats. It was so simple yet brilliant.

[josie andrews]

Our away results = our away fans ?
Our home results = our home fans ?

Somebody tell me why there is such a difference. We easily beat IMO the best team of 2011 so far, Huddersfield away. At home it almost needs a sending off, a fight, a fabulous biblical comeback to stir Wigan fans.

I think it is because at away games the noisy ones are all together instead of spread out in the East, South & West. When we were at Huddersfield there were drums on either side of the us, the away fans, almost everyone was singing. The atmosphere there IMO, considering we are all sat down, was incredible or as I put it at the time 'bouncing'. At Leeds the atmosphere was great as well, it always is.

I don't know what, if any, other reason it could be :conf:

[josie andrews]

I cannot recall where I watched it but the grounds was a foreight stadia and they had a fantastic section whereby fans could stand up in perfect safety but for European Champions League matches the barriers could be converted back to seats. It was so simple yet brilliant.

I saw that as well was it Holland?

[josie andrews]

A thousand in the North stand will drown out any Wigan support this should be the home stand IT HAS A SOLID ROOF unlike the South stand which has a pertial glass roof.

Never knew or realised that. Excellent point

http://www.dwstadium.co.uk/facts.php

When Mick Hannan was at the club, he was asking for years to move the home support from the South to the North because of this phenomena.
It was when we were owned by Mr Whelan & they always refused his request.

[cpwigan]

I cannot recall where I watched it but the grounds was a foreight stadia and they had a fantastic section whereby fans could stand up in perfect safety but for European Champions League matches the barriers could be converted back to seats. It was so simple yet brilliant.

I saw that as well was it Holland?

I think so Josie.

It was a really good system. Incredibly safe, probably not the room some fans would like but it allowed them to stand.