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I think Hock did instrigate the fight but we all know with Hock his problem is other his hot-headed reation to something, not starting something for no reason, so I would assume some provocation which he stupidly reacted to.

Magennis should get the biggest ban, he was starting on everyone away from the relatively isolated Hock-LMS scrap. He was unprovoked.

Mossop looked quite calculated, he walked over, watched Lockers get pulled away after being lamped one by Magennis and then just clocked him with one sweet punch.

2 game bans all round I think, maybe Hock and Magennis will get more.

The high shot of MM shouldn't be punished, if there had been no fight it wouldn't have been highlighted. Wilkin had two high shots equally as bad, both after the fight too, so if MM is banned Wilkin should be too, but that won't happen, he's a golden boy.

Hock sending off sufficient. Any other player the ref would be penalty only. Hock scares him. Two stains players need lengthy bans too but will they even be called. Jim

highland convert wrote:Hock sending off sufficient. Any other player the ref would be penalty only. Hock scares him. Two stains players need lengthy bans too but will they even be called. Jim

Jim we agree for once on the officiating.

The number of deliberate head shots that followed the strummash from stains was ridiculous. Penalty only. Jim

Just reading a RFL summary of the magic weekend and as an aside to the mention of the fighting they say that Hock was fined earlier in the season for throwing the ball into the crowd at Saints ,is this true because I thing he was only cautioned by the ref ?

medlocke wrote:

AdamMac wrote:

medlocke wrote:Hock deserves everything he gets, the guy is a total muppet, started all that crap yesterday and now now we are looking at 2 possibly 3 getting banned, nice one buffoon, i'm loving being proved right :badg:

What buffoon you are. Bore off.

Here is a clip of the fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5ZrKDefxk

the video proves it, the guy is super short on brain cells, he fell for it yet again and has potential cost us the game against Leeds, fair enough he has been going great guns this season, but when he gets it wrong he gets it wrong big time, maybe a 4 game ban will sort his head out, as for Tuson he should be given warning and nothing more, the shot from G.I Joe was a cowardly act and not in the spirit of the game :exc:

You blinkered, deluded person. I stopped short of calling you a fan because you clearly aren't. Hock reacted, as anyone would have to someone else sticking their head in your face. You've been quiet on here recently, maybe you should go back under your stone.

Watched it again twice now. There was hardly a niggle between the sides in the first half. Then there was the scrum 10 minutes into the 2nd half and LMS seemed determined to wind up Gaz Hock!

Anyone think this might have been deliberately staged? Was Mike Rush panicking so much at the prospect of a cricket score that his half time instructions were to dislodge Wigan's momentum by whatever means they could?

Kittwazzer wrote:Watched it again twice now. There was hardly a niggle between the sides in the first half. Then there was the scrum 10 minutes into the 2nd half and LMS seemed determined to wind up Gaz Hock!

Anyone think this might have been deliberately staged? Was Mike Rush panicking so much at the prospect of a cricket score that his half time instructions were to dislodge Wigan's momentum by whatever means they could?

Absolutely! They were onto a hiding to nothing and did whatever they could to disrupt the game or it clearly would have been 60+. Ok like I have said I think Hock threw the first punch but why did LMS not just put his head in the correct place for a scrum? A front rower that doesn't know how to scrum down? Like I said I also think Wane should take Hock out of the front row for scrums because it will just end up in more trouble. Finally I hate LMS and would love to see him and Hock in a one on one, hmmmmm!

Kittwazzer wrote:Watched it again twice now. There was hardly a niggle between the sides in the first half. Then there was the scrum 10 minutes into the 2nd half and LMS seemed determined to wind up Gaz Hock!

Anyone think this might have been deliberately staged? Was Mike Rush panicking so much at the prospect of a cricket score that his half time instructions were to dislodge Wigan's momentum by whatever means they could?

I think trying to wind Hock up is a deliberate ploy by most coaches. It tends to work as well.

I still think it should be sending off sufficient but there no doubt the Hock incident is what led to the brawl and so therefore led to the events that may see other Wigan players banned.

So whatever poeple think of medlockes opnion of Hock he is not wrong that his fight led to all the rest of it whether LMS started it or not.

And what is more Wane agrees Hock needs to stop rising the the bait:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18235546

"If he's made a mistake, I'll be into him," added Wane. "I don't want to lose Gareth Hock.

"He needs to be better and he has been better while he's been under me. He's no angel, but neither are St Helens and neither are we."

I still think he should get sending off sufficient but you can see the queue forming behind the expectation of a lengthy ban. It would IMO be grossly unfair if that happened but I can now see it coming.

Well I was wrong about along ban shaping up. Hock has been charged with a grade B offence so that is 1 to 2 matches. Mossop the same.

Tuson grade C which is 2 to 3.

Magennis grade D which is 3 to 5.

So it looks like at least they tagged Magennis for what he did.

Nothing for LMS.

Given Hock and Tuson were sent off I hope if any bans are given it is the minimum so 1 for Hock 2 for Tuson. There is an outside chance Hock could get off given he was sent off.

Don't think Mossop has any chance of avoiding a ban so best he plead guilty and hopefully gets 1 match due to a good record.