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DaveO I think you need to read posts properly, exiledwiganer clearly said the players were a disgrace to the shirt to tonight and SW MUST TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT!! That clearly states that SW is to blame for the players playing awful, my original reply before you start complicating things with your usual drivel was clearly stating that players have to accept they play bad at times and it is out of the coaches control. Yes coaches are to blame for certain things but as you stated on another post (ironically contradicting yourself) there was a lack of desire and effort from the players against Cas except Josh, that is not SW's fault, it comes from within the player!!

DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Thought the loss came about due to a perfect storm of poor play (collectively and individual), poor weather, poor referee, too many injuries to key players and too quick a turn around.

FWIW I was pleasantly surprised by Powell's performance on his debut, which probably came sooner than Wane would have planned, but do wonder why Greenwood and Spencer were not considered.

Tierney deserved a 2nd chance after his performance against Widnes but had a bit of a nightmare early on. I don't think Pat at fullback would have made much difference as he was also making plenty of errors.

With our current attacking play centered around Sam we need to replace him with someone who has a similar style of play. Tierney is a good steady fullback (as was Murphy)when in the u19s but doesn't have Sam's ability to beat a man or link with the 3/4s. If we had kept Matty Russell I think he would have been a better option. Of the current U19s I would say that Hampshire would be the best direct replacement and would love to see him given a chance.

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Is this "master of hindsight" the latest put down that has been dreamt up? We are discussing a game after it happened and are you going to be using this phrase in reply to anyone who suggests things may have been done differently?

FWIW the question was asked before this game on this board was Tierney ready and its also been said a lot in relation to Sam leaving that the young players are at least a year off being ready. So the general opinion was, before this game, Tierney wasn't ready and so it proved.

DaveO wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Is this "master of hindsight" the latest put down that has been dreamt up? We are discussing a game after it happened and are you going to be using this phrase in reply to anyone who suggests things may have been done differently?

FWIW the question was asked before this game on this board was Tierney ready and its also been said a lot in relation to Sam leaving that the young players are at least a year off being ready. So the general opinion was, before this game, Tierney wasn't ready and so it proved.

But you were and could not wait to let us all know your usual expert knowledge of where it all went wrong after winning over a dozen games on the trot.

Have read some real crap on this and RLfans over the last few days. None of you were moaning when we went 14 games unbeaten. None of you were moaning when we lost to Wire on Monday. But we lose and its time to blame Wane as he is clueless. Was he clueless for the last 14-16 games if so where were most of you that are complaining now. Daveo is the exception to this as he complains 24/7.

Its very obvious that the get Wane out Mafia has reared its ugly head from the cesspit they have hidden away in since the Giants game this season. Some of the bollocks on here is beyond a joke and its impossible to reason with people who have no understanding of the impact of playing 2 SL games in 4 days with a depleted squad which we are missing.

I fail to see how you can all slag Wane off but not mention that Richards and Charnley bombed 2 tries ahh wait it was Wanes fault i forgot.

Wanes biggest failing is that we won so many games without losing. So the WiganMafia could not vent off steam until now and had 14 weeks of it to let out in 1 go.

Some of you should really consider supporting another team if this is the attitude you have to losing 2 games in a week. Losing to Wire with a depleted side and then 4 days on when it was obvious the players were tired and blaming the coach shows however you want to look at it you have no understanding of the game and of its demands on the body.

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Yeah i agree with that for a lot of people on here. Pat Richards made just as big an error as Tierney did. But hindsight is a glorious thing to justify oneself.

cpwigan wrote:Do not blame the players btw. Lions led by donkeys.

Must have been some Donkey for the last 14 weeks

Whelley Warrior wrote:

DaveO wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Is this "master of hindsight" the latest put down that has been dreamt up? We are discussing a game after it happened and are you going to be using this phrase in reply to anyone who suggests things may have been done differently?

FWIW the question was asked before this game on this board was Tierney ready and its also been said a lot in relation to Sam leaving that the young players are at least a year off being ready. So the general opinion was, before this game, Tierney wasn't ready and so it proved.

But you were and could not wait to let us all know your usual expert knowledge of where it all went wrong after winning over a dozen games on the trot.

It's really about time you stopped talking about me and started talking about the game. If you can't I suggest you stop posting before you get banned.

thegimble wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:DaveO you are also the master of hindsight, I guarantee if Pat would have played FB and we still would have lost, you would have been saying we should have played Tierney at FB he did well against Widnes!! Hindsight Master should be your new name!

Yeah i agree with that for a lot of people on here. Pat Richards made just as big an error as Tierney did. But hindsight is a glorious thing to justify oneself.

So in future when something goes wrong you are never going to offer an opinion suggesting something could have been done differently?

Are people banned from offering such opinions because they weren't Mystic Meg and didn't predict it beforehand?