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Re: Root and branch

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:16 pm
by slimshady
sc74 wrote:
slimshady wrote:
TrueBlueWarrior wrote: Confirmed!
:eusa2: :eusa2:
Can someone please promote TBW to Moderator status?
He has been policing this forum with dedication and conviction for such a long time.
:eusa1:

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:25 pm
by cpwigan
The ? is can we rescue our season and if replacing Wane means winning the GF then it has to be worth it. If retaining him = no GF loss then doing nothing and anybody who advocates it have a lot to answer for.

Is doing nothing the answer? or The Wigan Way?

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:07 pm
by superleague
I think it's debatable wether we will make the top 4, it's going to be difficult without being able to win away from home. if we don't even make the 4 then getting to GF is irrelevant

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:24 pm
by Panchitta Marra
cpwigan wrote:The ? is can we rescue our season and if replacing Wane means winning the GF then it has to be worth it. If retaining him = no GF loss then doing nothing and anybody who advocates it have a lot to answer for.

Is doing nothing the answer? or The Wigan Way?
Rescuing the club from third in the table?
C'mon CP, I could see your angle if we were looking also rans here.
Why can't we win it with the current set up from 3rd in the table and possibly higher?

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:15 pm
by Wintergreen
Panchitta Marra wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The ? is can we rescue our season and if replacing Wane means winning the GF then it has to be worth it. If retaining him = no GF loss then doing nothing and anybody who advocates it have a lot to answer for.

Is doing nothing the answer? or The Wigan Way?
Rescuing the club from third in the table?
C'mon CP, I could see your angle if we were looking also rans here.
Why can't we win it with the current set up from 3rd in the table and possibly higher?
Of course we can. The fact that there are only 4 teams in the competition "not rubbish" enough to win it ensures this.

The reality is that we should be sailing it and we are not.

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:59 pm
by cpwigan
Panchitta Marra wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The ? is can we rescue our season and if replacing Wane means winning the GF then it has to be worth it. If retaining him = no GF loss then doing nothing and anybody who advocates it have a lot to answer for.

Is doing nothing the answer? or The Wigan Way?
Rescuing the club from third in the table?
C'mon CP, I could see your angle if we were looking also rans here.
Why can't we win it with the current set up from 3rd in the table and possibly higher?
For me PM, last season we blew the CC, LL and the GF. This season we have blown the CC and I believe unless something happens we will blow the LL (I thinks that has gone and personally it matters not to me) and the GF. 2 seasons of failure is bad for any club but when you start with the legacy of Madge, the best depth, best junior talent, best facilities (people criticise IL but bar having a stadium, some of the thing in recent seasons have been fantastic (Central Park etc) and the best backroom staff in RL. To blow all those fantastic advantages is incredulous.

I would like to think we can win but to be honest replacing Wane now even for a short term appointment is more likely to make that happen than keeping faith with wane. The man probably loves the club / job but Wane is hurting this club through sheer stupidity.

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:16 pm
by slimshady
cpwigan wrote:
Panchitta Marra wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The ? is can we rescue our season and if replacing Wane means winning the GF then it has to be worth it. If retaining him = no GF loss then doing nothing and anybody who advocates it have a lot to answer for.

Is doing nothing the answer? or The Wigan Way?
Rescuing the club from third in the table?
C'mon CP, I could see your angle if we were looking also rans here.
Why can't we win it with the current set up from 3rd in the table and possibly higher?
For me PM, last season we blew the CC, LL and the GF. This season we have blown the CC and I believe unless something happens we will blow the LL (I thinks that has gone and personally it matters not to me) and the GF. 2 seasons of failure is bad for any club but when you start with the legacy of Madge, the best depth, best junior talent, best facilities (people criticise IL but bar having a stadium, some of the thing in recent seasons have been fantastic (Central Park etc) and the best backroom staff in RL. To blow all those fantastic advantages is incredulous.

I would like to think we can win but to be honest replacing Wane now even for a short term appointment is more likely to make that happen than keeping faith with wane. The man probably loves the club / job but Wane is hurting this club through sheer stupidity.
But the depth of the squad doesnt mean the quality is as good as Madge had, look back at the 2011 team and tell me that its anywhere near this years. That is ultimately down to IL, his wage structure is very poor

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 12:33 am
by pedro
I dont think anyones squad is better than in 2011, thats not down to IL, its down to the Aus salary cap and the fact that ours hasnt moved.

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 4:05 pm
by cpwigan
pedro wrote:I dont think anyones squad is better than in 2011, thats not down to IL, its down to the Aus salary cap and the fact that ours hasnt moved.
Wholeheartedly agree. Leeds were in a bad spot but are managing to renew an ageing squad. Saints are nowhere near what they were then. Likewise Wire. SL is weaker than it has ever been.

Re: Root and branch

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 4:32 pm
by Firestarter
Got to agree 100% with both of you.I keep saying how weak SL is,but friends just think I say this due to Wigan not being dominant.If you took out all the nrl based players out of the England squad, we would be very very poor imo.
I also think only Leeds,Wigan,saints and wires have a genuine chance of winning the grand final(and that's been for quite a few years).But again, that's only my opinion