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Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:56 am
by bomhead
why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?


Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:04 pm
by Warrior20
bomhead wrote:why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?
Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:56 pm
by bomhead
Warrior20 wrote:
bomhead wrote:why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?
Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
do you think they coach a better defensive style as well

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:47 pm
by Panchitta Marra
Warrior20 wrote:
bomhead wrote:why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?
Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
Can it be said that the coaching has been good with NZ Warriors this season, many of their fans think it's been Dire and Sam T has mentioned the lack of respect shown by some players.
Warriors players have also recently been shown on local media partying the night away at a local concert(s). Where's the discipline with players behaving the way they have.
Personally I think Sam would have been a better player in NRL with a more disciplined club.

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:11 pm
by Sutty
Panchitta Marra wrote:
Warrior20 wrote:
bomhead wrote:why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?
Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
Can it be said that the coaching has been good with NZ Warriors this season, many of their fans think it's been Dire and Sam T has mentioned the lack of respect shown by some players.
Warriors players have also recently been shown on local media partying the night away at a local concert(s). Where's the discipline with players behaving the way they have.
Personally I think Sam would have been a better player in NRL with a more disciplined club.
I agree and I have often wondered whether or not he'd have settled better if he'd been with a Sydney based club.
He'd have certainly been a guest on The Footy Show and is pretty good when addressing the camera. So fans would have seen a different side to him and I wonder whether that sort of thing, together with being "in the middle" of the competition (so to speak) would have helped him settle a bit better.
Not to mention the whole Sydney lifestyle. I must admit if I was given a choice between Auckland and Sydney, I'd possibly go for the Sydney option. I just think it seems like the players that have gone to a Sydney based club have settled and performed much better than Sam has and they've not all been of the same calibre player that Sam is / was.

Still, that being said, he's had the guts to go over there and try his hand in the tougest RL comp in the World. Granted it's not turned out how he'd have liked it to, whether that's because of homesickness, the systems employed by the Warriors or purely the lifestyle changes that there would have been.

I'm going to reserve judgement on whether he's improved as a player until he's got a good few games under his belt next year. One thing that's clear though, is how much better he is under the high ball now.

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:11 pm
by bomhead
Panchitta Marra wrote:
Warrior20 wrote:
bomhead wrote:why are NRL defences a lot better than super league?
Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
Can it be said that the coaching has been good with NZ Warriors this season, many of their fans think it's been Dire and Sam T has mentioned the lack of respect shown by some players.
Warriors players have also recently been shown on local media partying the night away at a local concert(s). Where's the discipline with players behaving the way they have.
Personally I think Sam would have been a better player in NRL with a more disciplined club.
I think he may have enjoyed life a lot more in auz as well

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:51 pm
by Panchitta Marra
bomhead wrote:
Panchitta Marra wrote:
Warrior20 wrote: Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
Can it be said that the coaching has been good with NZ Warriors this season, many of their fans think it's been Dire and Sam T has mentioned the lack of respect shown by some players.
Warriors players have also recently been shown on local media partying the night away at a local concert(s). Where's the discipline with players behaving the way they have.
Personally I think Sam would have been a better player in NRL with a more disciplined club.
I think he may have enjoyed life a lot more in auz as well
Better living a nineties lifestyle with a good team than being back in the seventies with players not prepared to knuckle down and a coach that appears to allow it. :lol:

Re: Sam injured? - contingency plan?

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:42 am
by shaunedwardsfanclub
bomhead wrote:
Panchitta Marra wrote:
Warrior20 wrote: Because the teams and coaching are a lot better.

They don't have any Wakefield's or Salford's who you can generally score a lot of points against quite easily. Although they have some teams better than others, the gap between the top and bottom isn't as big as the gap here. You could go from playing Leeds one week here to playing Wakefield the next. Over there you don't get one very hard game followed by one very easy game.
Can it be said that the coaching has been good with NZ Warriors this season, many of their fans think it's been Dire and Sam T has mentioned the lack of respect shown by some players.
Warriors players have also recently been shown on local media partying the night away at a local concert(s). Where's the discipline with players behaving the way they have.
Personally I think Sam would have been a better player in NRL with a more disciplined club.
I think he may have enjoyed life a lot more in auz as well
He'll like it better in Wigan! Sam is better on one leg than what we have currently got.