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- TrueBlueWarrior
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Re: Hampshire
Well he can't get in Wigans team as a 6/7 or FB, he can't get in Cas team as a 6/7 or FB even when both have injuries they play other players out of position before Rocky!
I have nothing against the lad at all and I genuinely hope he makes it big for us but let's be honest he isn't a baby anymore and needs to start letting his actions do the talking for him on the pitch, something he hasn't done as of yet!! What really irritates me more than anything is he gets more praise, plaudits and recognition for quite frankly doing nothing of any significance yet but other youngsters that perform consistently well for OUR first team aren't recognised half as much! That isn't aimed at anyone on here by the way!!
Rocky needs to play better it's as simple as that!!
I have nothing against the lad at all and I genuinely hope he makes it big for us but let's be honest he isn't a baby anymore and needs to start letting his actions do the talking for him on the pitch, something he hasn't done as of yet!! What really irritates me more than anything is he gets more praise, plaudits and recognition for quite frankly doing nothing of any significance yet but other youngsters that perform consistently well for OUR first team aren't recognised half as much! That isn't aimed at anyone on here by the way!!
Rocky needs to play better it's as simple as that!!
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Re: Hampshire
He cannot get into the 6/7 positions because of more experienced players in front of him plus on occasions Powell has deemed it necessary to have a more physical forward at number six for reasons best known to himself.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Well he can't get in Wigans team as a 6/7 or FB, he can't get in Cas team as a 6/7 or FB even when both have injuries they play other players out of position before Rocky!
I have nothing against the lad at all and I genuinely hope he makes it big for us but let's be honest he isn't a baby anymore and needs to start letting his actions do the talking for him on the pitch, something he hasn't done as of yet!! What really irritates me more than anything is he gets more praise, plaudits and recognition for quite frankly doing nothing of any significance yet but other youngsters that perform consistently well for OUR first team aren't recognised half as much! That isn't aimed at anyone on here by the way!!
Rocky needs to play better it's as simple as that!!
I have never understood why Powell signed him in the first place if he already had more experienced half backs and why Hampshire agreed to go to Castleford when surely he could that his chances were limited for the same reasons.
And unless anyone has seen him play in all games when selected, how can anyone make opinions on his performances as a whole. From what I have seen of him in the games on television, he has not done all that bad considering he is playing under a different Coach, different team mates and above all, a different system and game plan.
Give the lad a break!
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Grant Millington has been picked in the halves ahead of him. How can people be blind to that? They had two experienced halves at Castleford and one of them has been injured almost all season. If they had enough cover they wouldn't have signed ChaseWhelley Warrior wrote:He cannot get into the 6/7 positions because of more experienced players in front of him plus on occasions Powell has deemed it necessary to have a more physical forward at number six for reasons best known to himself.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Well he can't get in Wigans team as a 6/7 or FB, he can't get in Cas team as a 6/7 or FB even when both have injuries they play other players out of position before Rocky!
I have nothing against the lad at all and I genuinely hope he makes it big for us but let's be honest he isn't a baby anymore and needs to start letting his actions do the talking for him on the pitch, something he hasn't done as of yet!! What really irritates me more than anything is he gets more praise, plaudits and recognition for quite frankly doing nothing of any significance yet but other youngsters that perform consistently well for OUR first team aren't recognised half as much! That isn't aimed at anyone on here by the way!!
Rocky needs to play better it's as simple as that!!
I have never understood why Powell signed him in the first place if he already had more experienced half backs and why Hampshire agreed to go to Castleford when surely he could that his chances were limited for the same reasons.
And unless anyone has seen him play in all games when selected, how can anyone make opinions on his performances as a whole. From what I have seen of him in the games on television, he has not done all that bad considering he is playing under a different Coach, different team mates and above all, a different system and game plan.
Give the lad a break!
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Re: Hampshire
The truth is two coaches now have failed to move his career on,now of course it's the coaches fault the lads overly zealous supporters will claim I just don't know why he has utterly failed at Cas,when as we all know they've had crippling injuries,when a prop is picked ahead of you in your position then something is clearly wrong.
I feel fans have heaped praise upon him were frankly it wasn't justified,give these lads a chance to grow and certainly don't start comparing them to player x,y or z it's very unfair to the player concerned you have to give the m room grow and not become player x's clone.
He clearly got bad advice over the Cas move,yet that said Powell is a coach I admire for the way he and his teams play the game,so I can see why the advisors and the lad himself thought it could offer something else,I always thought he would make a go of it and would join the club at the end of the loan deal.
He should have dropped down a division and gone to say Bradford or Leigh for instance and got his career going there,I don't know where he would now fit in at Wigan,there must be cap issues brewing by seasons end Sosa I say I'm not sure were he's going to go,I don't see it to be honest.
Putting my mystic meg hat on for a second at best I see another loan deal at worst I see him leaving.
I feel fans have heaped praise upon him were frankly it wasn't justified,give these lads a chance to grow and certainly don't start comparing them to player x,y or z it's very unfair to the player concerned you have to give the m room grow and not become player x's clone.
He clearly got bad advice over the Cas move,yet that said Powell is a coach I admire for the way he and his teams play the game,so I can see why the advisors and the lad himself thought it could offer something else,I always thought he would make a go of it and would join the club at the end of the loan deal.
He should have dropped down a division and gone to say Bradford or Leigh for instance and got his career going there,I don't know where he would now fit in at Wigan,there must be cap issues brewing by seasons end Sosa I say I'm not sure were he's going to go,I don't see it to be honest.
Putting my mystic meg hat on for a second at best I see another loan deal at worst I see him leaving.
- Wigan_forever1985
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Re: Hampshire
Sorry i disagreecpwigan wrote:Maybe because he has the same if not better record than Sam did and if like Sam he is given an opportunity he might well be a fantastic player for Wigan.
And the youngster revealed that it has been a difficult transition.
“It has been testing,” he told the Yorkshire Evening Post.
“I think I’ve come from a system at Wigan which is totally different to here and it has been hard to get in. But these things happen. I took the risk to come to Cas and I do think you have to take risks in this sport. That’s what I’ve done.
“I’ve stuck my neck out and it’s not quite paid off but I’m confident in myself that something will happen.”
The youngster moved to the wing during his recent appearance in an attempt to impress Daryl Powell.
“I put my hand up to play as we were struggling for wingers
“It was the first time I’d ever played there but I’ve not been playing and thought why not have a new challenge.”
Sam scored 5 tries on his first team debut, yes it was against a lower end team but from the get go Sam showed he had what it took to be at first grade, he hit the ground running.
Hampshire has played at half back a good handful of times now to show something and he has shown very little to make anyone see him as anything other than average.
Being an astounding junior is no guarantee of anything, he might work out to be a good winger but he just isnt cut out IMO to be a SL half back
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- TrueBlueWarrior
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Re: Hampshire
All I keep hearing are excuses, he needs to play better simple as that!!Whelley Warrior wrote:He cannot get into the 6/7 positions because of more experienced players in front of him plus on occasions Powell has deemed it necessary to have a more physical forward at number six for reasons best known to himself.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Well he can't get in Wigans team as a 6/7 or FB, he can't get in Cas team as a 6/7 or FB even when both have injuries they play other players out of position before Rocky!
I have nothing against the lad at all and I genuinely hope he makes it big for us but let's be honest he isn't a baby anymore and needs to start letting his actions do the talking for him on the pitch, something he hasn't done as of yet!! What really irritates me more than anything is he gets more praise, plaudits and recognition for quite frankly doing nothing of any significance yet but other youngsters that perform consistently well for OUR first team aren't recognised half as much! That isn't aimed at anyone on here by the way!!
Rocky needs to play better it's as simple as that!!
I have never understood why Powell signed him in the first place if he already had more experienced half backs and why Hampshire agreed to go to Castleford when surely he could that his chances were limited for the same reasons.
And unless anyone has seen him play in all games when selected, how can anyone make opinions on his performances as a whole. From what I have seen of him in the games on television, he has not done all that bad considering he is playing under a different Coach, different team mates and above all, a different system and game plan.
Give the lad a break!
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Re: Hampshire
Indeed. Even the like of Shorrocks, who has unfussily plied his trade in the U-19s and bided his time (long injury lay-off, too), and who is, it seems, in front of Rocky in the pecking order now.God wrote: You look at Tierney and his attitude and he's been well rewarded, something about Rocky doesn't seem right and it's the same at Cas.
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is this not also down to Shorrocks has proven he can play his position at SL level (from the few games hes played so far) Rocky wants to be a half but so far hasnt shown hes capable at SL level, where as he was showing he was a good stand in fullback, and possible discovered he will be okay on the wing at Cas?moto748 wrote:Indeed. Even the like of Shorrocks, who has unfussily plied his trade in the U-19s and bided his time (long injury lay-off, too), and who is, it seems, in front of Rocky in the pecking order now.God wrote: You look at Tierney and his attitude and he's been well rewarded, something about Rocky doesn't seem right and it's the same at Cas.
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Re: Hampshire
It was a nice step that Hampshire made for his 2nd try and he showed his natural pace.
Is it an attitude problem with him, as he can clearly play when he's in the right frame of mind.
Is it an attitude problem with him, as he can clearly play when he's in the right frame of mind.
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Re: Hampshire
I should have added Joe Lydon to the list, a few half decent players in thereNo straw damn us wrote:Wigan players I can remember,cpwigan wrote:Meds how many young players, even seasoned players can possibly play FB, Wing and 6/7 ?
Billy Boston, Eric Ashton, Ashton, Kev O'Loughlin, Bill Francis, Colin Tyrer? Jason Robinson, Shaun Edwards.