A message for Wigan too?

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FWarrior
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Re: A message for Wigan too?

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I am not saying the salary cap is the reason why a club went bust. I am saying the salary cap was supposedly introduced to prevent clubs from going bust and that has clearly never happened. Arguable more seem to go bust with a salary cap than withouta salary cap. I would argue that in the salary cap era revenue and investment has declined meaning that relatively the salary cap has become worth less but even worse other competing sports gave seen revenue, investment both increase and the salary cap has increased and increased. Even in the NRL. If you are a young talented back then it makes no sense to play a far tougher sport like RL when you can play RU and get paid a much better salary. It is no wonder Josh Charnley wanted to leave when England's Elite Player Squad (EPS) will receive £22,000 per test, a £5,000 increase on last year's deal. Farrell, Ford or even Myler will be far richer than any current RL player when they retire. Ellery Hanley, Shaun Edwards, Andy Farrell, Kris Radlinski would never have played for Wigan in the current situation. RL has let the tail well and truly wag the dog for the last 15 years. We have to aim big because shopping at poundstretcher has achieved nothing. The last round of financial decision making harmed SL and benefitted the Championshp to the point the sport is dying.
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Re: A message for Wigan too?

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cherry.pie wrote:
FWarrior wrote:I am not saying the salary cap is the reason why a club went bust. I am saying the salary cap was supposedly introduced to prevent clubs from going bust and that has clearly never happened. Arguable more seem to go bust with a salary cap than withouta salary cap. I would argue that in the salary cap era revenue and investment has declined meaning that relatively the salary cap has become worth less but even worse other competing sports gave seen revenue, investment both increase and the salary cap has increased and increased. Even in the NRL. If you are a young talented back then it makes no sense to play a far tougher sport like RL when you can play RU and get paid a much better salary. It is no wonder Josh Charnley wanted to leave when England's Elite Player Squad (EPS) will receive £22,000 per test, a £5,000 increase on last year's deal. Farrell, Ford or even Myler will be far richer than any current RL player when they retire. Ellery Hanley, Shaun Edwards, Andy Farrell, Kris Radlinski would never have played for Wigan in the current situation. RL has let the tail well and truly wag the dog for the last 15 years. We have to aim big because shopping at poundstretcher has achieved nothing. The last round of financial decision making harmed SL and benefitted the Championshp to the point the sport is dying.

I'm not sure whether the RFL stated that the salary cap was brought in to stop clubs going bust specifically
, or whether that is something that has been suggested after the caps inception. Either way there are plenty of examples of how the salary cap doesn't prevent clubs from going bust.

I actually don't think we're under too much threat from rugby union at the moment, but the potential is always there. We've lost Josh Charnley and a few years ago lost Sam Burgess. However, what happened to Burgess may well have put some RU clubs off making huge cross code signings, and possibly made a few RL players think twice too.

Charnley was in an interesting situation. He's already won plenty at Wigan and represented his country, but had fallen out of favour the season before and seemed to be evaluating his next steps a while before his move to Sale was announced. The more worrying situation is Denny Solomona, as he has been by far the best outside back in Super League this year and is definitely something special. Losing him at his peak will be a big loss, but even without a salary cap we'd be struggling to keep him in the game.

Perhaps scrapping or raising the cap will help. I mean if clubs do stretch themselves a little bit more then perhaps we'll start to keep a few players over here, tempt a few more from the NRL and that might spark a bit of a Super League revival. The problem is it seems like a bit of a Hail Mary approach; spending more money that isn't readily available in the hope that it can buy enough quality to bring the 'Super' back to Super League. The frustrating thing is that there are several decent players who could add depth to Super League sides playing in the Championship while weaker players are playing regularly in Super League.
That was exactly why it was brought in.
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THE salary cap has four functions, as defined by The RFL’s Operational Rules. They are:
– “To protect the integrity of the Super League competition by ensuring that the determinative factor in the sporting outcome is on-field sporting merit and not off-field financial considerations.”
– “To ensure that the Super League competition remains competitive and therefore attractive to spectators and commercial partners by preventing Clubs with greater financial resources dominating the competition and by ensuring a balanced spread of Players among the participating clubs.”
– “To protect and nurture a broad competitive playing structure by preventing Clubs trading beyond their means and/or entering into damaging and unsustainable financial arrangements.”
– “To protect the welfare and interests of all Players participating in the Super League competition and of all those aspiring to participate in the Super League competition.”
It was introduced in 1999, although one of the main bones of contention is that it has barely risen since then to its current level of £1.825million, or no more than 50 per cent of Club Relevant Income.
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FWarrior wrote:THE salary cap has four functions, as defined by The RFL’s Operational Rules. They are:
– “To protect the integrity of the Super League competition by ensuring that the determinative factor in the sporting outcome is on-field sporting merit and not off-field financial considerations.”
– “To ensure that the Super League competition remains competitive and therefore attractive to spectators and commercial partners by preventing Clubs with greater financial resources dominating the competition and by ensuring a balanced spread of Players among the participating clubs.”
– “To protect and nurture a broad competitive playing structure by preventing Clubs trading beyond their means and/or entering into damaging and unsustainable financial arrangements.
– “To protect the welfare and interests of all Players participating in the Super League competition and of all those aspiring to participate in the Super League competition.”
It was introduced in 1999, although one of the main bones of contention is that it has barely risen since then to its current level of £1.825million, or no more than 50 per cent of Club Relevant Income.
The original reason for the introduction. The rest was conveniently added later
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Re: A message for Wigan too?

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The Impact of the Salary Cap in the European Rugby Super League
Andrew Howartha, Terry Robinsonb, T. A Robinson

Abstract

Salary caps are widely used in professional sports as a mechanism for improving competitive balance in a league. Some commercially important sports leagues such as soccer’s English Premier League are considering their introduction. To guide the decisions of policy-makers in such organizations, information on the effectiveness of salary caps is essential. This paper assesses the impact of the salary cap introduced in rugby league’s European Super league on the competitiveness of the league. Using three measures of competitive balance; share of championships won, the five-club concentration ratio and the Herfindahl-Hirshman index, we find tentative evidence that the salary cap did improve competitive balance after it was introduced.

Academic research shows only tentative evidence that the salary cap improved competitive balance.
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Re: A message for Wigan too?

Post by pedro »

Proves its failed, how many teams have won the super league/grand final? 4? in 18 years

How many teams won it the 18 years before? 9?

Gone backwards for competativeness and failed in stopping clubs going bust, failed in sharing players around as they scrapped the academies so only 5-6 teams are getting forst crack.

A total shambles so should be scrapped. I dont care if Wire and Leeds dominate as they are cash rich but would be better to watch.
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