sallary cap

[Doveoverdave]

the gimble posted;

Some of the Rhinos contracts are coming up for renewal and players will get better offers from the likes of Salford and Huddersfield

This is he whole point of the cap!!!!

Also if the cap was not in place a certain Andrew Farrell would be playing in a Wigan shirt

No he wouldn't. He has stated the switch was nothing to with money.

a massive contract to secure his furute on.

The big diference between us is that you would mortgage the team for one out-of-date, perenilly injured former Wigan great - I wouldn't.

Rads has been linked again as has Carney

Ditto above!

So if you want to watch second rate rugby stick with the system.

The quality of the comp. is what counts not the quality of Leeds & Wigan.

all its done is brought most of SL to the same level

THIS IS WHY THE CAP IS IN PLACE!

[thegimble]

Doveoverdave posted:

the gimble posted;
If the cap is a restraint of trade then its an illegal policy

Until proven legally there is no point discussing this further as we have both made our feelings known.

If the same rules apply to all other clubs please explain how the Broncos and other clubs but especially the Broncos have more foregin players in the club than most

The same rules, as regards salary, do apply to all clubs. Our pay masters at Sky have made trhe RL alter the rules for London as regards imports.

The real threat will now come from Union

Well diddums!
Union have a cap as well.
The threat from union has nothing to do with the cap and more to do with recognition and international oppurtunities. It's just a far bigger game.
Simple

Personally id rather watch Williams, Orford, Lockyer, Cayless and more WC players than the standard we have today

Again nothing to do with the cap. Recognition and international opprtunity once again.(See Carlos Spencer is to play for Northampton next season - now his internatonal aspirations have either been fulfilled or are over. Ge the drift?)

and create a league where only 2-3 teams will win

Leeds & Saints seemed to have managed this within the SAME budget that we have had to spend.

If your happy watching the likes of players of the standard of Aspinwall, Brown, Wild and most of the team then fine let the cap stay in place.

No I'm not. But these are the players that the management have seen fit to spend their budget on. The decisions have been made - live with it!

Difference with the cap in League and Union is vast.

Contracts are controlled by the RFU and all international contracts are heaily subsidised by the RFU. RFU at present is a bottomless pit of money and are willing to spend to strengthen when we are not allowed.

Do you honestly thing if we offered Lockyer a massive contract he would stay in the NRL. Remember we regard Faz as loyal and yet he went for the bigger purse. As the saying goes Money talks.

Leeds will start to suffer in the next 12 months if as the original thread of this post says that both clubs threateninng legal action. So if Leeds are so well balanced then why are they looking into taking action then.

So do you agree with the special dispensation on the foregin rules for London.

We do not have to live wih the decision at all if it gets challenged it will get changed due to European law on labour law. Remeber Bosman in football the same will happen here.

If your happy with what is happening presently then fair enough. I have a saying if you can not win fair then cheat. In sport winning is everything and if it means changing the rule to win then do it.

After all was the rule set in there to stop mus winnning.

[thegimble]

Doveoverdave posted:

the gimble posted;

Some of the Rhinos contracts are coming up for renewal and players will get better offers from the likes of Salford and Huddersfield

This is he whole point of the cap!!!!

Also if the cap was not in place a certain Andrew Farrell would be playing in a Wigan shirt

No he wouldn't. He has stated the switch was nothing to with money.

a massive contract to secure his furute on.

The big diference between us is that you would mortgage the team for one out-of-date, perenilly injured former Wigan great - I wouldn't.

Rads has been linked again as has Carney

Ditto above!

So if you want to watch second rate rugby stick with the system.

The quality of the comp. is what counts not the quality of Leeds & Wigan.

all its done is brought most of SL to the same level

THIS IS WHY THE CAP IS IN PLACE!

The cap is in place due to mis management by clubs. Equal playing field does not make for a better competition. Does not improve standards. As if the standard bearer is of a low quality then that is what all will aim for.

Do you think Liverpool would be European Champions if Chelsea and Man u and Arsenal had not raised the bar. Sport needs a dominating figure over a few years at a time so that will drag the quality up amd not as we have now a game that is going back in standards.

Why do you want all at the same level.

Should we not be allowed to spend more of the income we generate on players. We generate more income so theoretically in all other sports we would get better quality instead we get the crap weve had over the last few months.

Do you agree that London should be allowed to get more foreign players than any club. If they bend the rules for 1 why not for us.

Faz went for the money make no mistake about that.

Sorry to upset you but the quality of Wigan is what i care about and not the rest. Seems to me your not a Wigan supporter more of a RL supporter which is fair enough and good luck too you. Personally id rather be top than where we are now.

[Doveoverdave]

the gimble posted;
The Zurich Prem introduces a pound1.8m salary cap for clubs

Straight of the web

Difference with the cap in League and Union is vast.

Proved not true.

Do you honestly thing if we offered Lockyer a massive contract he would stay in the NRL

Yes. What do you think he is on at he moment??!!

Remember we regard Faz as loyal and yet he went for the bigger purse.

Untrue. Unless you're calling the man a liar.

Leeds will start to suffer in the next 12 months

By suffer do you mean they wil find it harder to dominate? This is the reason behind the cap.

So do you agree with the special dispensation on the foregin rules for London.

Not really. However the decisions have been made and I see no reason to complain when it's the same for all - bar London.

I have a saying if you can not win fair then cheat.

After all was the rule set in there to stop mus winnning.

Paranoia!

[Doveoverdave]

Sorry Mrs Lam my quote buttons on the blink again!

[thegimble]

Doveoverdave posted:

the gimble posted;
The Zurich Prem introduces a pound1.8m salary cap for clubs

Straight of the web

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Difference with the cap in League and Union is vast.

Proved not true.

Do you honestly thing if we offered Lockyer a massive contract he would stay in the NRL

Yes. What do you think he is on at he moment??!!

Remember we regard Faz as loyal and yet he went for the bigger purse.

Untrue. Unless you're calling the man a liar.

Leeds will start to suffer in the next 12 months

By suffer do you mean they wil find it harder to dominate? This is the reason behind the cap.

So do you agree with the special dispensation on the foregin rules for London.

Not really. However the decisions have been made and I see no reason to complain when it's the same for all - bar London.

I have a saying if you can not win fair then cheat.

After all was the rule set in there to stop mus winnning.

Paranoia!

Yes the clubs get 1.8 but the RFU will finance greatly the International players. Therefore they will get more than the 1.8 as international fees in Union is much higher than in League. They play more internationals and play less league matches.

Therefore the income of players will be subsidised by the RFU. So if Faz is on 250,000 only a portion of that will go agaist a clubs cap we pay it all on the cap.

[MrsLam]

It worries me how much Ian Millward is opening his mouth to tell the fans all these secrets we keep hearing. Surely this is not a professional way to coach a club, keep the club business to himself and the club.

Someones always going to complain about the Salary cap and at times it does seem unfair that we for example are 3 players down and can't replace them even though they will DEFINITELY NOT play again this year. However, I'm glad there is a system that stops any one team going out and buying till their hearts content, it keeps the sport as a whole more respectable IMO, what it has also done is bring up the competition between the clubs and as much as I hate that this season because we've been beaten by both top and bottom clubs, in general it makes the sport more exciting. Mo said he was challenging the 20/20 rule in the WEP, the article is on the news page.

[MrsLam]

Doveoverdave posted:
Sorry Mrs Lam my quote buttons on the blink again!

I noticed, think I've sorted it out.