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so as well as hull playing well we have to put up with bent bentham...

Isa hand is cleary stood on but no lets ignore that and call on the trip

yokozuna wrote:Isa and Tierney are simply not good enough. They're alright to fill in when we have a first XIII, but not when we need senior players to stand up and carry the team forward.

Also, Williams isn't offering much, although there's not much of a platform for him.

20 points behind, but it might as well be 50. I can't see us closing this gap.

Bentham not helping things either!

this season ive noticed a bit of the joel tomkins in isa....... liabilities..... giving stupid pointless penalties away

Bentham is not the one missing tackles!!

Our young kids are good going forward but can't defend against bigger, stronger and more experienced players

I think our squad has been so decimated that the other players are having to play too many minutes and are likely to be fatigued before the start, if not carrying slight knocks

If we lose this it's not season over, Salford, Wakefield and even Castleford to some extent are not used to playing for throphies, so let's hope the pressure gets to them and we can still sneak in when it matters

If not then there's always the Challenge Cup....

Ashamed of being a Wigan fan .Wane most go and several players as well

Forwards have been dire today as well. Playing on the back foot throughout, and that makes it bloody hard work for the backs.

I guess Burgess isn't fully fit then, there's no way he'd have been caught normally.

I'm sure the Wane debate was in full swing about this time last season

Then we won the Grand Final and became Wold Club Champions

Who should replace him? Who can get the under 19's and a busted squad winning matches again? No easy task, Wane is doing ok and he'll be hurting every bit as much as we are :exc:

adiddy wrote:FFS how much pace has budgie lost???

I don't know. He's bloody fast shooting out of that defensive line.
Pity he hasn't tackled anyone yet.

Good set, good kick, good chase.

Then a really stupid penalty by Tautai.

the Wane is a fraud shit again. hes won us plently.
more than Wane have imput into the way we play. ffs Deacons last coaching season with us we were playing his attack play. they stated it at start of season and we had poor attack.

this is crap. we need some new ideas as other teams have adapted but wane is no fraud.

Wigan_forever19​85​ wrote:We aren't missing smith

Escare on the other hand!

And Gelling. Every opposition coach has our game plan sussed. Gelling is the maverick they cannot account for!