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Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:28 pm
by shaunedwardsfanclub
Fawdoffshed wrote:
nathan_rugby wrote:If somebody has a very bad kicking technique then hours and hours of practice is not going to reach that persons potential.
Agreed. Practising hour after hour with no-one telling you what is wrong is useless.
Unless you are a natural :o

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:25 pm
by Jimmy Birts
Fawdoffshed wrote:Many seasons ago I was walking near to Central Park and saw a lone person kicking dozens of balls, all lined up, in the pouring rain, forever replacing them and kicking again and again and again.

The name of that lone person?

Mr. Frano Botica.

Therefore, I agree with DaveO that practice, practice, practice is basically at the heart of a kicker who wants to be simply the best.

As Botica was. Richards, too, was quite sublime considering the nightmare start he had to his goal-kicking career.
Remember playing cricket one afternoon on Robin Park just after we'd signed Botica. He spent hours on the next field kicking goal after goal on his tod.

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:42 pm
by No straw damn us
Kicking goals is a bit like a golf swing. The average player has a good day and all seems well (George Williams v Wire in the Cup this year) but then can't replicate it consistently. A specialist coach can however study the action/swing and help, that's why all the top golf pros use them at certain times. However if you don't have the ability in the first place you'll never be a top player.

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:04 pm
by jobo
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
Fawdoffshed wrote:
nathan_rugby wrote:If somebody has a very bad kicking technique then hours and hours of practice is not going to reach that persons potential.
Agreed. Practising hour after hour with no-one telling you what is wrong is useless.
Unless you are a natural :o
Even naturals have to develop their skill.
At academy level, Andy Farrell wasn't the team kicker, yet for the first team, he looked a natural.

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:17 pm
by Wigan Watcher
A kicking coach can only fine tune an excellent kicker... We don't have any excellent kickers but below average kickers. You will find no improvement in our ratio next season unless we start putting the ball under the sticks. Mark my words

We still need a goal kicker!

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:39 pm
by shaunedwardsfanclub
jobo wrote:
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
Fawdoffshed wrote:Agreed. Practising hour after hour with no-one telling you what is wrong is useless.
Unless you are a natural :o
Even naturals have to develop their skill.
At academy level, Andy Farrell wasn't the team kicker, yet for the first team, he looked a natural.
It was a tongue in cheek comment. After saying that the best kicker I ever saw played in the same team as me at amateur level and he got zilch coaching.

Re: New signing

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:57 pm
by Seinfeld79
Funny how there are many posts that are critical of the place-kicking at the club; they then do something that on the face of it appears to be addressing the issue and even this is wrong. I don't recall too many posters suggesting that signing a kicking coach was a bad idea yet as soon as one is appointed it is seen by some as a negative or not worth it.

Re: New signing

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:12 am
by moto748
I hope it will be worth it. I think it should be worth it. But we'll have to wait and see. I can't imagine, though, that in other sports (RU, obviously) kicking coaches aren't widespread.

Re: New signing

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:51 am
by Wes
Seinfeld79 wrote:Funny how there are many posts that are critical of the place-kicking at the club; they then do something that on the face of it appears to be addressing the issue and even this is wrong. I don't recall too many posters suggesting that signing a kicking coach was a bad idea yet as soon as one is appointed it is seen by some as a negative or not worth it.
+1

Re: New signing

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:44 am
by TrueBlueWarrior
Wes wrote:
Seinfeld79 wrote:Funny how there are many posts that are critical of the place-kicking at the club; they then do something that on the face of it appears to be addressing the issue and even this is wrong. I don't recall too many posters suggesting that signing a kicking coach was a bad idea yet as soon as one is appointed it is seen by some as a negative or not worth it.
+1
+1 more!