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pedro wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:52 pm

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:00 am

pedro wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:29 pm

go on explain? was sam not moved? Widdop? Lockyer? Radlinski?

Just look at the players you have listed there and have a think about who we are talking about. Not in the same league.

How’s Williams one v one defending and positional play at FB?

his 1 on 1 defending is top notch, dont know about positioning as hes not played there

The one v one defending a FB does is never replicated in the line. It’s another skill he would have to master from scratch. Same as the one above.

For a player who can’t seem to master his own position, I have much less faith he can master a completely new one.

tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

Tackling in the line and tackling one v one at fullback in an open field are categorically not the same.

You either have never played rugby, or at least never played fullback. Talking utter nonsense.

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:54 am

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

Tackling in the line and tackling one v one at fullback in an open field are categorically not the same.

You either have never played rugby, or at least never played fullback. Talking utter nonsense.

What’s having played or never have got to do with anything? Does it mean you can’t have an opinion on such matters ?

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:54 am

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

Tackling in the line and tackling one v one at fullback in an open field are categorically not the same.

You either have never played rugby, or at least never played fullback. Talking utter nonsense.

Its the same as in the line you can be left 1 on 1, played for 20 years thanks, you need to make the one and one tackle after that its not your problem as you take the man with the ball, same as any of the backline. Sounds like youve never played the game with such a sweeping comment. Ive explained why its the same (twice), explain why it isnt.....

I love the nobby-know-it alls on here

Anyone would think players have NEVER been moved into another position and that has worked out quite well for them. Jesus some on here can't make up whether TL is a half/stand off or hooker but unless you've played the game your opinions count for sh7te - thanks for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We can all go home and close this and the other sites down now

up the junction wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:21 pm

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:54 am

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

Tackling in the line and tackling one v one at fullback in an open field are categorically not the same.

You either have never played rugby, or at least never played fullback. Talking utter nonsense.

What’s having played or never have got to do with anything? Does it mean you can’t have an opinion on such matters ?

It does when you come out with a statement like the above because it proves my point.

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:06 pm

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:54 am

pedro wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am tackling is tackling as its technique and reading the players body language for what he is going to do, the line and last man are no different.

Tackling in the line and tackling one v one at fullback in an open field are categorically not the same.

You either have never played rugby, or at least never played fullback. Talking utter nonsense.

Its the same as in the line you can be left 1 on 1, played for 20 years thanks, you need to make the one and one tackle after that its not your problem as you take the man with the ball, same as any of the backline. Sounds like youve never played the game with such a sweeping comment. Ive explained why its the same (twice), explain why it isnt.....

1 v 1 defending in the line is completely different to 1 v 2 defending at fullback. How on earth can you not see that?

I am aware you take the man with the ball, thank you for stating the obvious. But its more about how you angle your body, timing the tackle, dictating which direction the attacking player goes etc. You've really proven my point time and time again.

Its like saying there's no difference in forwards and backs because they both catch the ball and take a drive up from our own 20.

its simple, when your defending 1 v 2 at fullback you tackle the man with the ball, if he makes the pass then youve done your job, right so reading a player etc is the same as in the line as it is a FB, ask the Leeds centre about it when he misread Gildarts line and positioned himself wrong. There is no difference between forwards and backs coming out of the 20, its up the jumper and run as fast and hard as you can.

Defending at full back feels very different to defending in the centres. In the centres it is so much about position and balance, being aware but not over aware of the players inside and outside you. Make sure you can count and line up your man on your outside shoulder, and you won’t go far wrong.
As opposed to full back where you have an entire pitch to cover. You should be able to channel a single runner so that they go round you one side or the other, if it’s 2 then make sure you get at least one of them, and sometimes (as with centre) you just have to take someone head on. In any case, at 1 you have to anticipate every break everywhere, and work out how close to the line you need to be, especially as you have to cover kicks as well (and tell everyone who is in front of you what you think is happening).
Once you get within striking distance of a player the skills are pretty similar, but the options and processes to get there are pretty different. For what it’s worth, I think that it is harder to learn to be a good centre as so much of what you have to do feels unnatural - straight lines and holding your nerve especially.