Squads for Friday v Leeds

Discuss all things Wigan Warriors. Comments and opinions on all aspects of the club's performance are welcome.
Charriots Offiah
Posts: 5123
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:14 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Charriots Offiah »

Ipinwigan wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:55 am
morley pie eater wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:38 pm No interception passes from H Smith, please!!!! I still remember . . .
He has become quite adept at providing passes for the opposition to score, as last week's game. :roll:
There’s no way he throws that pass if we are winning, we were chasing the game.
Last edited by Charriots Offiah on Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Blackpool_Pie
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Blackpool_Pie »

Mike wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:31 pm
Blackpool_Pie wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:09 pm
Mike wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:27 pm

Hasn't every team been doing this for decades? I',m not sure it counts as cynical, its just the rules.
I haven't actually noticed us do it to the level that we saw last week against KR. They were consistently offside, especially in the first half. The referee and tjs didn't seem to think so though. We seem to get pinged more than most teams for offside yet I don't think we do it anywhere near as much as others
I'm pretty sure the whole team is in front of Smith every time he kicks it for distance aren't they?
Sorry I didn't read the original post properly. I skimmed and thought it was referring to teams edging offside when defending high up the pitch and I referenced KR doing it last week and not getting pinged.

Yep everyone does it on the last play.
Southern Softy
Posts: 1616
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:15 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Southern Softy »

I don't believe we do it as an organised tactic,hence our success at following up kicks and tackling the receiver near the line. Thompson in our forwards is especially good at staying onside and thus being able to tackle the receiver without waiting. Everyone goes offside at a kick occasionally - I'm talking about the Leeds tactic of the forwards moving up en masse way before the kick goes up. As I said - legal but cynical and likely to bring about some kind of rule change if it continues.
nathan_rugby
Posts: 4373
Joined: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:12 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by nathan_rugby »

Southern Softy wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:24 am I don't believe we do it as an organised tactic,hence our success at following up kicks and tackling the receiver near the line. Thompson in our forwards is especially good at staying onside and thus being able to tackle the receiver without waiting. Everyone goes offside at a kick occasionally - I'm talking about the Leeds tactic of the forwards moving up en masse way before the kick goes up. As I said - legal but cynical and likely to bring about some kind of rule change if it continues.
Are they more than 10m offside when doing it?
Bomhead - "Lockers to prop."
Charriots Offiah
Posts: 5123
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:14 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Charriots Offiah »

moto748 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:21 pm We could do this:

https://www.nrl.com/news/2024/02/14/202 ... n-chasers/

It'd need the touchies to be on top of their jobs, though.
They don’t have a job they do it for exercise.
Southern Softy
Posts: 1616
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:15 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Southern Softy »

Quite often they are way ahead of the kicker but always give the receiver 10 metres to stay within the laws. What it means in practice is that the Leeds forwards can tackle a player straightaway after the ten metre rule instead of having to run from behind the kicker which often allows the receiver to make 20/30 meters or more. As I say, it's legal but creates an advantage for the side that uses the tactic, It's particularly useful against a player like Field who revels in running at a defence coming from behind the kicker.
Blackpool_Pie
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Blackpool_Pie »

Southern Softy wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:01 am Quite often they are way ahead of the kicker but always give the receiver 10 metres to stay within the laws. What it means in practice is that the Leeds forwards can tackle a player straightaway after the ten metre rule instead of having to run from behind the kicker which often allows the receiver to make 20/30 meters or more. As I say, it's legal but creates an advantage for the side that uses the tactic, It's particularly useful against a player like Field who revels in running at a defence coming from behind the kicker.
This may be true but it's been done forever. Go back and watch a little from the 80s and 90s. It was more blatant back then
Welski
Posts: 1059
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2002 12:23 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Welski »

Would having them all offside till the kicker runs past them (rather than the receiver running 10m) not sort it out? (Forgive me if this is already the rule)
Strongest Armpits in Rugby League
Southern Softy
Posts: 1616
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:15 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Southern Softy »

That is the rule but the Leeds way means that the tactical kicker can stay in defence or saunter up un their own time, whichever suits them.
I'm sure the tactic has been used before but I don't remember it being so organised as the current Leeds team.
Oh sod it! Let's just beat them and consign Bentley to outer darkness where he belongs.
Welski
Posts: 1059
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2002 12:23 pm

Re: Squads for Friday

Post by Welski »

That’s what I mean amend the rule so only the kicker can play his team onside (I’m sure that was the rule when I played union many many years ago!
Strongest Armpits in Rugby League
Post Reply