Lindsay

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DaveO
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TWO EYED WARRIOR posted:

So now your blaming the fans! for demanding Mo stepped aside from the recruitment HMM !
No I am saying despite having done what they asked and stepped aside from making signings the fans are still accusing him of making poor signings!

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Stan Doff posted:
The "famous incident" is obviously not famous enough...
It was not Mo who bought Frano not was Robinson!
He went against Monies choice of Blake and fell lucky with Bots.
Are you sure? I am sure Mo was the one involved with the signing.

EDIT:

Botica joined in 1990. Jack Robinson took over as chirman in 1992 (until 1997).

It seems Mo was chairman in 1990 and responsible for signing Botica against Monies wishes as I thought.

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Re: Lindsay

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TWO EYED WARRIOR posted:
He did what was asked of him by the fans and stopped signing the players. He is still being blamed for the current situation despite absolving himself of responsibility for recruitment.


Thats not what you said is your post!
I posted the above you quoted and I posted this:

"No I am saying despite having done what they asked and stepped aside from making signings the fans are still accusing him of making poor signings!"

Now that seems pretty clear to me that I have said twice he is being blamed for recruitment when he did in fact step aside so I don't know what you are on about.

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Re: Lindsay

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Walk away and give some1 else a chance, his time is finished, he has done well for us in the past, but thats in the past and its time for a change
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Dave you want it both ways as usual.

Learn your history, Botts was one of Robinsons.
Not every decision was mo's even though he was chairman.
You absolve Mo of the decision to get rid of yet
another coach because of the existence of our "Board" yet claim Bots as down to him ignoring the board we had at the time.

If you do your homework you will see that many of the ruthless decisions were Jacks. Lyndsay was the more flamboyant - if we build it the will come - type of director.

Being serious, and not meaning to sound condescending (please don't take it that way) if you want some interesting reading i have loads you are free to borrow.
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si_bax posted:
Walk away and give some1 else a chance, his time is finished, he has done well for us in the past, but thats in the past and its time for a change
Ok if MOE was to go, who would you have as chairman? Can you see anyone else taking the job?
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I simply do not beleive that Mo stepped aside to let Mildred choose the players. He never has in the past and I just don't buy it now.
If he did not let Monie who he rates the best coach ever why would he let anyone?

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Anyway I look forwards to a debate over the wekend dave but I will not have the chance before saturday to lock horns.

"Enjoy the game" and remember...












ITS TIME TO GO MO!
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Re: Lindsay

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Stan Doff posted:
Dave you want it both ways as usual.

Learn your history, Botts was one of Robinsons.
Not every decision was mo's even though he was chairman.
Mo is always cited at the man who did the signings pre-Millward.

Point this out with the Botica example and suddenly it was Jack Robinson doing the signings.

Mo was chairman at the time Botica was signed of that there is no argument. The coach didn't sign the player, there is no argument about that either. So ultimately it was the chairman's responsibility i.e. Mo's.
u absolve Mo of the decision to get rid of yet
another coach because of the existence of our "Board" yet claim Bots as down to him ignoring the board we had at the time.
If I had a pound for every time a post is made citing Mo as the man who signed Wigan's players I'd be rich. If you are now saying it was always a board decision or often Robinsons while Mo was chairman then that is a new one on most fans.

So lets get this straight. Are you saying it was never Mo's sole responsibility to sign players?

If so then it means Mo is being unfairly criticised for his autonomous rule regarding who plays for Wigan.

As to Millwards sacking being a board decision and not Mo's alone I think that has to be the case regardless of the way the club was run up to 1992 during Mo's first stint and prior to when we got a board recently. The men on the current board are not going to have no opinion on this.

Things change and so while Mo was a dictator at one time does not mean he can do that now.

So no, I don't want it both ways but I think others do. They want him to be a dictator to blame him for all the clubs ills when it suits but won't accept that if was a dictator he did some good things such as signing Botica.
If you do your homework you will see that many of the ruthless decisions were Jacks. Lyndsay was the more flamboyant - if we build it the will come - type of director.

Being serious, and not meaning to sound condescending (please don't take it that way) if you want some interesting reading i have loads you are free to borrow.
I don't take it that way at all and equally don't want you to take my response the same way. I like a good debate!

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Re: Lindsay

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Stan Doff posted:
I simply do not beleive that Mo stepped aside to let Mildred choose the players. He never has in the past and I just don't buy it now.
You just told me Jack Robinson made signings! You can't have it both ways :wink:

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