Page 3 of 3
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:20 pm
by GeoffN
DaveO posted:
GeoffN posted:
Very few clubs, ourselves included, offer 4-year deals to new signings of any age. Of our current squad, only Danny Orr is on that length of contract, which might explain why 2 or 3 years is the norm!
I think DV is also on a four year deal, which just adds weight to your theory of course.
Dave
Nope. 3 years from July 2004.
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:35 pm
by Fraggle
TWO EYED WARRIOR posted:
If PNB HAS any sense? then he'll already realise that sydney roosters have had the best out of Moz,watching him on Sky he really has put himself about and the nrl competition without doubt the toughest,will have taken its toll on Moz.
I'm prepared to accept that was also the excuse for Harvey NoYards less-than impressive performances when he came back to the UK from Aus...! I hope that Moz performs as well for Warrington as HH did for Wigan...
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:18 pm
by Fraggle
TWO EYED WARRIOR posted:
Fraggle posted:
TWO EYED WARRIOR posted:
If PNB HAS any sense? then he'll already realise that sydney roosters have had the best out of Moz,watching him on Sky he really has put himself about and the nrl competition without doubt the toughest,will have taken its toll on Moz.
I'm prepared to accept that was also the excuse for Harvey NoYards less-than impressive performances when he came back to the UK from Aus...! I hope that Moz performs as well for Warrington as HH did for Wigan...
Bit of difference though fraggle,Harvey H was a journeyman to start off with toing and froing from code to code and oz to uk.
I was trying to be generous, rather than saying outright that the guy was an overrated crock of ***** and I could never understand why he was so highly rated even whilst in Aus....
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:29 pm
by primrose-n-blue
Flash posted:
Warrington have apparently offered Morley a 4 year deal, which for a 30 year old player (by the time he joins them next season) is quite a gamble.
little difference in offering a 29/30yr old a 4yr deal as opposed to a 32yr old a 2yr deal...don't you think? other than one of them is world class and he'll play for warrington.
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:36 pm
by jinkin jimmy
No doubt our involvement had a good chance of forcing Wolves to up their offer so it may be a good outcome for us. They have to keep Morley for at least 2 yrs past his shelf life and have probably had to pay him an extra £80K for the privelege.
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:46 pm
by The Black Pearl
I spoke to one of Adrians mates from Salford today and he's signed a 4 year deal worth 250K a year not bad money if you can get it. The only thing I was disappointed about was the fact the Adrian Morley chose Warrington over the mighty Wigan. Also Martin Gleeson signed for Warrington because they offered him more than we could offer. Come on whats gone wrong with the world.
Re: Morley
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:57 pm
by jaws1
Wigan should have now seen the light about giving long contracts and big FAT pay cheques to players with the Salary cap as it is .I don't want to name players but there have been some players at Wigan who have been on mega bucks all through the incompetence of MO .Morley had a decision to make and he took the right option for him a 4 year contract whatever money he is reputed to be getting.As the situation stands we could be relegated next year if Morley had signed for us his contract would be worthless.
Re: Morley
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:20 am
by Fraggle
The Black Pearl posted:
I spoke to one of Adrians mates from Salford today and he's signed a 4 year deal worth 250K a year not bad money if you can get it. The only thing I was disappointed about was the fact the Adrian Morley chose Warrington over the mighty Wigan. Also Martin Gleeson signed for Warrington because they offered him more than we could offer. Come on whats gone wrong with the world.
As the person who posted the message after this proves, many people have problems with top players being paid top money. People were happy to criticise Farrell and even Rads for eating up large parts of the salary cap when they spent parts of every season injured, and their big salaries were stopping the club bringing in more players. Obviously there are one or two other players also on big money who do not justify their salaries on current form, but I never understood that attitude when applied to our captain and our fullback who both were 100% committed to our club and both undeniably skillful players.
But quarter of a million is a big chunk out of any team's salary cap. It's more than we were paying Faz for a player that won't have the contribution to the team that Farrell had. If we've cash to splash (and ignoring the salary cap issues relating to relegation) then an expensive prop perhaps isn't our most important investment. SeuSeu's retirement wouldn't pay for Morley, so the additional money would have to come from sacrificing (not literally!)another player from somewhere...
Re: Morley
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:38 am
by boovey2006
GOOD LUCK TO MORLEY WE NEED SOME MORE EXTRA TALENT IN SUPER LEAGUE IT WILL BE GOOD FOR HIM AND WARRINGTON I WILL PUT IT ON 10 YEAR TIME WARRINGTON WILL BE THE TEAM TO BEAT
Re: Morley
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:59 am
by DaveO
Fraggle posted:
As the person who posted the message after this proves, many people have problems with top players being paid top money. People were happy to criticise Farrell and even Rads for eating up large parts of the salary cap when they spent parts of every season injured, and their big salaries were stopping the club bringing in more players. Obviously there are one or two other players also on big money who do not justify their salaries on current form, but I never understood that attitude when applied to our captain and our fullback who both were 100% committed to our club and both undeniably skillful players.
Me either. If clubs want top players like those two they have to pay salaries around the £200K mark or more.
What clubs can't do anymore is afford to pay average players big salaries.
That said if Morely is on more than £200K a season then its silly because of his age. Wigan were paying top dollar to Faz and Rads at the peak of their careers not the end of them.
I have seen it posted elsewhere Morely's deal is actually £500K over four years, so that is £125K a season.
If that is correct then he is perhaps worth that for two years but certainly not four.
But quarter of a million is a big chunk out of any team's salary cap. It's more than we were paying Faz for a player that won't have the contribution to the team that Farrell had.
If my lower fgure is correct then it is reasonable for two years maybe but after that? No way should anyone be paying someone the age he will be by then £125K a year.
Dave