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faz13 posted:

*sparklynemo* posted:

the grinch posted:
i think sparklynemo was having a bit of fun there! everyone knows farrell was one of wigans greats but the point is can he do it again? i think not.

I'm not saying he wasnt one of the greats but i just dont think we need him back we need to build on this team and i think the good times will come back starting next season. would love to think that we can go from relegation favourites mid season to the grand final but i think its asking to much but hey you never know

you have gone from "never thought much of him" to "one of the greats" ps, we have got no chance of gf success this season, safety this year is itself is success after the start weve had

i know what i mean lol. he will go down as a great in wigans history but i never thought much.
To me Rads will be more of a great he has done so much for the club wigan through and through.
Like you said if we still had faz we wouldnt of been in the mess we have this season but he left the club went for the big money and high profile ang hes just blended into the background. He was the big name in rugby league but apart from when rumours spring up about him coming back to league or an update on his dodgy toe when do u ever hear of him making a success of his career in yawnion

*sparklynemo* posted:

faz13 posted:

*sparklynemo* posted: I'm not saying he wasnt one of the greats but i just dont think we need him back we need to build on this team and i think the good times will come back starting next season. would love to think that we can go from relegation favourites mid season to the grand final but i think its asking to much but hey you never know

you have gone from "never thought much of him" to "one of the greats" ps, we have got no chance of gf success this season, safety this year is itself is success after the start weve had

i know what i mean lol. he will go down as a great in wigans history but i never thought much.
To me Rads will be more of a great he has done so much for the club wigan through and through.
Like you said if we still had faz we wouldnt of been in the mess we have this season but he left the club went for the big money and high profile ang hes just blended into the background. He was the big name in rugby league but apart from when rumours spring up about him coming back to league or an update on his dodgy toe when do u ever hear of him making a success of his career in yawnion

Are you for real? He has been injured since he left the club. First a toe injury then he got injured in a car crash!

He hasn't made a success of a career in unions because his career is yet to start.

As to his time at Wigan he was a great player and it is only with the arrival of Fielden that we have a player of comparable standing in the side (apart from Radlinki but he is now on his last legs).

To be a great side you need great players. He didn't win Man of Steel for nothing in his last season for us. It was a mistake to let him go and the hoops this club has had to jump through to be in with a chance of avoiding relegation never mind be a success are down to him leaving a great deal IMO.

I think the club had a deluded idea that the players that remained were good enough to cover his departure. That soon proved not to be the case and in the end we have had to break the transfer record to get someone comparable. That should show you how much of a good player he was for us and how much he has been missed.

Dave

We have proved that there is life after Farrell and we are managing well enough without him. He is now a waste of money because he is injury prone,


and lets face it he is so far over the hill, that you can no longer see him!!!!

luke_robinsons_ angel posted:
We have proved that there is life after Farrell and we are managing well enough without him. He is now a waste of money because he is injury prone,


and lets face it he is so far over the hill, that you can no longer see him!!!!

As DaveO said, he's no more injury-prone or over-the-hill now than he was in that final season when he was Man of Steel and putting his body on the line for the club. You don't turn from that to being a waste of money overnight. We have NOT shown there is life after Farrell, since he left we've had the two worst results in the club's history, failed to get into the play-offs for the first time since that format was introduced, and a very long (and not yet over) fight to avoid the drop into the lower leagues. Once we're back in serious contention for winning trophies, then we can consider that we're at the same level we were with Faz in the team, but we're certainly not there yet. I don't think any of the current team is quite upto being able to win games for us single-handed, as I remember Farrell doing against London Broncos at Griffin Park about 3 or 4 years ago...

I can accept he was a good player and he did a lot for the team but I could see what he did wrong and was let to get away with at the club. Edwards got away with a lot at the club and thought he was running the place and so did Farrell.

Personally he was not my type of player, I don’t like bullies!

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I think that's our answer :sly:

Wigan Watcher posted:
I can accept he was a good player and he did a lot for the team but I could see what he did wrong and was let to get away with at the club. Edwards got away with a lot at the club and thought he was running the place and so did Farrell.

Personally he was not my type of player, I don’t like bullies!

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I'd have him back in a shot, got to be better than that over rated Fielden and I wouldn't mind him having a say at the club when it's run by someone as clueless as Brian Noble and don't get me started on Radlinski, it's a good job he's playing for nothing because I wouldn't pay him in washers for his form at the moment..and Dallas? I've had quicker terrapins....Dobson? All he can do is kick, Orr he couldn't play the piano in the Royal Oak never mind rugby...Billy Boston? He wouldn't last ten minutes against Ade Gardener etc.

DaiJones posted:
I'd have him back in a shot, got to be better than that over rated Fielden and I wouldn't mind him having a say at the club when it's run by someone as clueless as Brian Noble and don't get me started on Radlinski, it's a good job he's playing for nothing because I wouldn't pay him in washers for his form at the moment..and Dallas? I've had quicker terrapins....Dobson? All he can do is kick, Orr he couldn't play the piano in the Royal Oak never mind rugby...Billy Boston? He wouldn't last ten minutes against Ade Gardener etc.

Cast out and wait for the first bite.

I was satirising the quintessentially Wigan habit of slagging off players we should be thanking our lucky stars to have watched. I grew up shaking my head in the Kop as Edwards, Offiah, Betts and Gregory amongst others were rubbished by fellow Wigan fans and equally inexplicably, Farrell was a favourite target in the Super League era.

No one is happier to adopt a contrarian stance for comic effect than me and as a follower of the Welsh rugby team, no one is a stouter defender of the right to criticise your players either, but the way we belittle some of the finest athletes any sport has ever seen is simultaneously hilarious and irritating. I have been to watch Arsenal regularly over the last fifteen or so years and though they often make mistakes, I don't think I've ever heard home fans describing Thierry Henry, Denis Bergkamp or Patrick Vieira as greedy, slow, rubbish, a big head etc. perhaps because they pay so much at the gate football fans know when they are watching value for money.

Criticise away, we've had some distinctly average players in the Cherry and White after all, but Farrell? Edwards? Offiah? Watching them for £12 or less was both a bargain and a privilege.