incompetence

[GeoffN]

Fraggle posted:

oldtimer posted:
do you honestly think rads is playing for NOTHING?

Not at all, he'll have been paid up at the start of the year so will already have had his money. You'll notice I've not mentioned him amongst the 20/20 players that were released, if only because I'm not totally sure how players "retiring" through injury are dealt with on the cap. The suggestion, from the club's statement, is that injured players will still have their full salary counted on the cap, since they named Davico in the statement despite him playing only 2 minutes of rugby for us. However, that's not totally consistent with SeuSeu being released to free up money for Fielden, so there's uncertainty about exactly how this kind of thing is handled. Incidentally, I think the release of Moran and SeuSeu are the two most significant ones, they will have released a lot of money for Fielden and Dobson, with most of the others covered by the players already being released, other 20/20 players going and players being loaned out. I don't think Rads makes much of a difference to this years' numbers.

I've just remembered that I've seen somewhere (I think DaveO posted it initially) that this season's cap is increased with inflation to £1.75 million. That's an extra £50k to play with.

[willie c]

GeoffN posted:
As I see it, there are three possible scenarios:

1. Maurice didn't realise we were going to be over the cap, and so did nothing (such as loaning out players) to ensure we stayed under it.

2. Maurice knew we'd be over, but expected it to be less than 52% (as opposed to the actual 52.3%), which would have been a fine but no points deducted.

3. Maurice knew exactly how much we'd be over, but didn't expect the 2 points to matter.

If 1. he should be sacked for incompetence.

If 2. he should be sacked for incompetence and dishonesty

If 3. he should be sacked for incompetence, dishonesty, arrogance and bringing the club into disrepute.

Have I missed anything?

yeah he needs to be flogged with a barb wire whip but he would probly enjoy it

[100% Warrior]

GeoffN posted:
Because there'd then be no incentive to keep under the cap at all. If the penalty for being 10p over was the same as for being £3 million over, that would just be silly. The scale is explained in the "official rules" thread.
It's similar to speeding penalties: the more over the limit you are, the higher the points on your licence.

I can see what you mean, but I think any movement under the rule allows clubs to think it doesn't matter if we just overstep the mark.

As far as I'm concerned it shouldn't matter if you're £10,000 or 10p over the cap, if you're over that's it you should cop the punishment that way every club knows where they stand with regards to enforcement of the salary cap.

[mike binder]

£2 million sounds better its still not a great deal of money compared to football and change the 20/20 rule to 25/25 rule :conf:

[num lock]

carl hodson posted:
i dont think our current standing in super league is totally down to the players or coaches-it is incompetence at a higher level.Now that we have been docked 2 priceless points due to the salary cap debacle, i think this goes to prove how incompetent.Or are they going to blame this on the players and coaches as well?

The incompetence goes further than the Wigan board room,what about RL HQ,how can a so called professional game wait so long into a season before handing out punishments like this?They are making this great game a laughing stock,we just can't be taken seriously as a professional sport with people like these di%&heads in charge.

[mike binder]

num lock posted:

carl hodson posted:
i dont think our current standing in super league is totally down to the players or coaches-it is incompetence at a higher level.Now that we have been docked 2 priceless points due to the salary cap debacle, i think this goes to prove how incompetent.Or are they going to blame this on the players and coaches as well?

The incompetence goes further than the Wigan board room,what about RL HQ,how can a so called professional game wait so long into a season before handing out punishments like this?They are making this great game a laughing stock,we just can't be taken seriously as a professional sport with people like these di%&heads in charge.

correct as ive been saying for ages all the old farts should be sacked all they are doing is taking our sport backwards yes we are the laughing stock , could you see this happening in a proffesinal sport like football(oh sorry forgot we are a proffesinal sport) run by a bunch of diverinf ametures in my opinion which by law i am entitled to

[adrenalinxx]

Maurice did say last season that he wanted the RFL to change the rules so that player with long term injuries should not count on the salary cap because he was struggling to get a playable sqaud on the salary cap with all the injuries Wigan have been having.

Perhaps Lindsey had to take Wigan over the salary cap just to be able to field a team?

[num lock]

adrenalinxx posted:
Maurice did say last season that he wanted the RFL to change the rules so that player with long term injuries should not count on the salary cap because he was struggling to get a playable sqaud on the salary cap with all the injuries Wigan have been having.

Perhaps Lindsey had to take Wigan over the salary cap just to be able to field a team?

Understand what you're saying,but my point was about the RL themselves.Can you imagine the football league telling chelsea that they will have 2 points deducted 5 games from the end of the season,when they are going for the championship?It wouldn't happen.

[maureen60]

Definately not I couldn't agree more. If he was the Chairman of a public company he would have been voted off the board before now. Just who does he answer to ? Are the present board too afraid to vote him out or does he know something they don't want public ?

[adrenalinxx]

If Maurice goes, Whealen goes, Money Goes, Wigan suffer in NL1