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Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:38 pm
by primrose-n-blue
Whats alarming that is Cocaine must be rife in RL...Here's other cases of abuse from just this year and one of them is band only days before Hock!
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 5359019.jp
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 814299.stm
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:59 pm
by botica
Whats more alarming he is also charged along with another of intent to supply, but was only suspended and subsiquently banned after the testing.... Go figure
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:49 pm
by slimshady
slimshady wrote:cpwigan wrote:The club certainly need to learn from this. Under Ian Millward IIRC he introduced in house testing. I am not 100% sure but I do not think that is the case anymore.
As Dave says the club need to learn how to minimise this happening again.
Ultimately though you cannot prevent / eradicate it 100% IMO.
Sorry but if Millward did introduce testing at saints he wasnt testing for cocaine because MOD: Deleted. You can't say things like that.
Yes I can cause I saw it happening!!!!!
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:24 pm
by OAMJSONA
Gareth
was in Ibiza this week
but for legal reasons i will not go any further
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:35 am
by the-Bowtun-Warrior
cant you pm me the gossip lol
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:04 pm
by Kittwazzer
cpwigan wrote:My understanding is that the A and B samples are taken at the same time.
I am no forensic scientist, but that doesn't make sense! If both samples are taken at the same time, why aren't they tested at the same time? Surely the results are bound to be identical?
My thoughts were on a parallel with the Breathalyser. The driver is tested at the roadside and again later at the Police Station. If the later test proves below the limit then no further action is taken.
That said, you are allowed to have SOME alcohol in the system and still be legal. Drugs are a totally different matter!
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:35 pm
by cpwigan
KW I have no expert knowledge with testing but basically as I understand it they only take the B test to eliminate the possibillity that the A sample has been contaminated and they use the B only when A comes back as positive as like a safety mechanism. In 99.9% of cases the B is just a procedural formality.
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:49 pm
by jaws1
On RFL fans there is a posting about this .A person on there works for drug testing firm ,if the A sample proves positive then the B sample is checked more deeper into with lots more tests involved.
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:34 pm
by Panchitta Marra
jaws1 wrote:On RFL fans there is a posting about this .A person on there works for drug testing firm ,if the A sample proves positive then the B sample is checked more deeper into with lots more tests involved.
IMO the RFL must have known, or had reason to believe Hock was taking a substance of Cocaine, or that the sport of Rugby League is rife with it.
From what I understand, all sportsmem/women are led to believe that they are tested for all drugs at that one testing time.
This is not always true, as it is far too expensive.
On one web site it also highlights that since drug testing is so expensive, the big guys like weight lifters, Field Athletes are normally tested for steroids, while smaller guys are more often tested for other drugs, like marijuana, cocaine etc.
Re: Gareth Hock
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:58 pm
by cpwigan
Gareth Hock was tested because he was in the England 17. The RFL named the England 17 as the players to be tested that week. I daresay, they will do so again but nobody in the England 17 will ever get caught because anybody who knows they could be positive will pull out through 'injury'