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Re: Richard Silverwood...........
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:27 pm
by Ken
Silverwood is not as bad a ref as he makes out.
Just dos not like Wigan,(as cummings put the word out)The fans pay good hard earned money to see a good fair game of rugby, not to see the game decided by a ref and his bias desisions,we had enough of this last season, come on cummings get your ref`s to give us a break,DONT SPOIL THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD.
Re: Richard Silverwood...........
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:27 pm
by Ken
Silverwood is not as bad a ref as he makes out.
Just dos not like Wigan,(as cummings put the word out)The fans pay good hard earned money to see a good fair game of rugby, not to see the game decided by a ref and his bias desisions,we had enough of this last season, come on cummings get your ref`s to give us a break,DONT SPOIL THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD.
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:28 pm
by Matthew
I was very disappointed with Silverwood's performance. To sin bin Hock and Fielden and then to ignore the multiple high shots from Thackery seemed very unfair. Something that no-one else has mentioned; during a scrappy section of the second half, Toopi gave away 2 penalties in 2 tackles by messing around at the play of the ball - surely that should have been a yellow card?
Whilst we probably deserved 2 players in the sin bin, Leeds should have had 2 in the bin and Bailey in the changing sheds.
My biggest gripe about the "on report" situation is that Bailey hit one of our players with a cheap shot which could have affected his performance; apart from a penalty Leeds suffer no punishment. If at the disciplinary Bailey is punished; then it will benefit other teams and not us. If the TJ saw it then it should have been a card.
The mistake he made with Ashton was shocking and could have cost us the match. We were in an excellent attacking position; the penalty that was wrongly awarded against us then led to a Leeds score.
Thankfully Senior did us a favour and Bailey finished the job!
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:37 pm
by Panchitta Marra
My biggest gripe about the "on report" situation is that Bailey hit one of our players with a cheap shot which could have affected his performance; apart from a penalty Leeds suffer no punishment. If at the disciplinary Bailey is punished; then it will benefit other teams and not us. If the TJ saw it then it should have been a card.
A gripe subject for me too.
It is too often the case that the next opposition reap the benefits of a player being suspended (put on report). It is about time the "on the pitch" officials got their act together and benefit the oposition team that night for such incedents.
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:58 pm
by turf
(Before you say anything, I am NOT making excuses for Silverwood) It was an extremely hard game to referee and it would have been impossible for Silverwood to keep his whistle in his pocket last night.
This was due to the bad tackling styles of BOTH, Leeds and Wigan.
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:25 pm
by robjoenz
Well this is an unusual one, there are people on here that think Silverwood had a better game than I did. I thought he was pretty poor. He was not on the ball with his judgement calls I don't think.
I think he got both sin-binnings correct though. Whilst some Wigan fans think that Silverwood was conned by Thackray for holding Fielden's arm, Silverwood wasn't conned by Fielden not attempting to remove it was he. Straight after a warning is not the time to mess around.
Hock was clear cut too, he grabbed at Burrow three times before the penalty was awarded.
I was disappointed that Bailey remained on the field, he should have recieved some colour card for his high shot that the touch-judge spotted. I think there is that much concern about getting a decision wrong that red cards aren't used very often. On report is good for when the referee sees something in the corner of his eye, he knows it's a penalty but couldn't tell if the intent was there. I thought it was clear that with Bailey there was intent.
Other calls I think he made wrong include the forward pass just as they scored in front of us. I've not seen the video again to be honest, but I remember thinking his hands were facing out in front of him when he released it (I may be wrong though).
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:28 pm
by robjoenz
Ken posted:
Silverwood is not as bad a ref as he makes out.
Just dos not like Wigan,(as cummings put the word out)The fans pay good hard earned money to see a good fair game of rugby, not to see the game decided by a ref and his bias desisions,we had enough of this last season, come on cummings get your ref`s to give us a break,DONT SPOIL THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD.
Haha, I like reading these silly conspiracy stories, they're so funny
By the way, Ken; my suspicion is that the theme of penalties against Wigan for ill-discipline are down to... ill-discipline. We've been guilty of it all season.
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:53 pm
by gillysmyhero
robjoenz posted:
Well this is an unusual one, there are people on here that think Silverwood had a better game than I did. I thought he was pretty poor. He was not on the ball with his judgement calls I don't think.
I think he got both sin-binnings correct though. Whilst some Wigan fans think that Silverwood was conned by Thackray for holding Fielden's arm, Silverwood wasn't conned by Fielden not attempting to remove it was he. Straight after a warning is not the time to mess around.
Hock was clear cut too, he grabbed at Burrow three times before the penalty was awarded.
I was disappointed that Bailey remained on the field, he should have recieved some colour card for his high shot that the touch-judge spotted. I think there is that much concern about getting a decision wrong that red cards aren't used very often. On report is good for when the referee sees something in the corner of his eye, he knows it's a penalty but couldn't tell if the intent was there. I thought it was clear that with Bailey there was intent.
Other calls I think he made wrong include the forward pass just as they scored in front of us. I've not seen the video again to be honest, but I remember thinking his hands were facing out in front of him when he released it (I may be wrong though).
so you dont think he was wrong with the Ahston penalty or when he penalised us when Leeds player dropped the Balll at the PTB when no wigan player was anywere near him ?[/list]
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:36 pm
by butt monkey
robjoenz posted:
Other calls I think he made wrong include the forward pass just as they scored in front of us. I've not seen the video again to be honest, but I remember thinking his hands were facing out in front of him when he released it (I may be wrong though).
Could I ask, are you saying here that video ref. intervention may be a help as far as forward pass rulings are concerned. Or that, as this game is a fast flowing one, referees make mistakes and do miss forward passes - despite your recent protestation that they do not (for the Stains 1st try), (reading between your lines - unsureness which way hands are facing), I would say that they do, and more frequently that any referee is willing to admit!
Re: Richard Silverwood.......
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:00 am
by robjoenz
gillysmyhero posted:
so you dont think he was wrong with the Ahston penalty or when he penalised us when Leeds player dropped the Balll at the PTB when no wigan player was anywere near him ?[/list]
My list of errors was not exhaustive!