General Election
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I am registered to vote in both Wigan and Sheffield. Labour is a pretty safe seat in Wigan and I always vote Lib Dem so I shall probably vote in Sheffield instead.
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That is spot on. The mega-scroungers highlighted above will be used as the excuse to cut benefits across the board affecting the genuinely needy.gpartin wrote:Terrible I know Josie but the party that deals with people like that will make changes across the board so people like my uncle who has worked 30 odd years for the same company until he recently lost his job due to the recession will have his dole money reduced and then stopped after two years because he isn't working. He's applying but so are 150 others. The real leeches need dealing with, not only the family you describe but people like James Caan who earn british money and don't pay tax here.
And the bit about Caan is right as well. Saw a program recently about Monaco and he was swanning around on his boat there and basically said because he had been so successful he has earned the right to avoid paying tax!
That is just immoral IMO but if the Tories win you can bet your house the mechanisms he uses to avoid tax will not be closed and you can guarantee the amount he avoids paying in tax far exceeds the forty-odd thousand that make the headlines of those mega-scroungers mentioned above.
Dave
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You don't work at The Heath Business and Technical Park in Runcorn do you? He popped in there as well if not.doc wrote: We had William Hague visiting the Business Park where I work last week, You should have seen the effort they made to get people in to listen his speach, making the maintenance people use their lunch break to listen to him.
Dave
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I think you have forgotten the government of the time had to de-moth ball Fearless (the assault ship which was due to be taken out of service) and we sent Chinook's and Harriers on the back of that well known aircraft carrier the Atlantic Conveyer! (a requisitioned container ship for those who don't know what it was - it got sunk as well taking all but one of the Chinooks with it).waterside glens wrote:why don't i vote labour ..bankrupt country over run by eastern europeans who's kids get child benefits dispite the fact they'll never set foot in this country. if people don't want to work fook em .Make them do something in return for or cash . oh and don't forget afganistan and iraq at least we where equiped to fight in the falklands
What is more the Tory government of the time had decided to scrap the aircraft carriers as part of their defence cuts so had the Argentines waited a while we could not have even contemplated sending a task force. It was pure good luck we still had the ships available.
Well equipped? It was a miracle we were able to cobble together a task force at all and of course the most controversial problem in Afganistan, lack of properly armoured vehicles, didn't exist in the Falklands conflict because there was virtually no armour used by either side. (We didn't take any).
It was also a conventional war with two uniformed armies going at each other and not what we see in Afganistan with roadside IED's and the like. Two completely different conflicts.
And that is before we get onto the subject that the Falklands war could easily have been prevented if the Tories hadn't completely dropped the baton.
Dave
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Lets face it people always think the Grass is greener on the other side. I studied Politics at College and voting patterns err towards a change after a long reign of a party.
I personally think it would be a mistake to let the Tories in, i dont trust Cam hes a jumped up etonite and doesn't to me seem to know a lot about what he is saying. His economy views are unsettling.
People are going on about the recession like it was only this country it hit a lot of countries and i think although it maybe could of been handled better i dont think the Tories would have been the party to do it.
Anyone who thinks another parties going to come in a wave a magic wand and all the immigrants have gone and the dole hounds suddenly want to work, petrol prices will drop and everyone will be fine is in for a shock.
Whoever gets in;
prices will rise
taxes will go up
petrol prices will go up
immigration will still be a problem
rugby league will still be treated like a second hand sport
I personally think it would be a mistake to let the Tories in, i dont trust Cam hes a jumped up etonite and doesn't to me seem to know a lot about what he is saying. His economy views are unsettling.
People are going on about the recession like it was only this country it hit a lot of countries and i think although it maybe could of been handled better i dont think the Tories would have been the party to do it.
Anyone who thinks another parties going to come in a wave a magic wand and all the immigrants have gone and the dole hounds suddenly want to work, petrol prices will drop and everyone will be fine is in for a shock.
Whoever gets in;
prices will rise
taxes will go up
petrol prices will go up
immigration will still be a problem
rugby league will still be treated like a second hand sport


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Also Coalition Governments dont work, there is only 1 situation in which they are best choice, during a time of war otherwise they are useless, i would prefer a Minority Government if they were the only options John Major had one and managed its a far better option than Coaliiton
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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 62318.html
Welcome to Cameron Land:
Hammersmith and Fulham is a sprawling concrete sandwich of London's rich and London's poor. It starts at the million-pound apartments on the marina at Chelsea Harbour – white and glistening and perfect – and runs past giant brownish housing estates and Victorian mansions, until it staggers to a stop on Shepherd's Bush Green, where homeless people sit on the yellow-green grass drinking and watching the SUVs hurtle past. Here, high incomes squat next to high-rises in one big urban screech of noise. In such a mixed area, the Conservatives had to run for power as a reconstructed party "at home with modern Britain". They promised to move beyond Thatcherism and make the poor better off. They were the first to hum the tune that David Cameron has been singing a capella in this election.
People who took this at face value were startled by the first act of the Conservatives on assuming power – a crackdown on the homeless. They immediately sold off 12 homeless shelters, handing them to large property developers. The horrified charity Crisis was offered premises by the BBC to house the abandoned in a shelter over the Christmas period at least. The council refused permission. They said the homeless were a "law and order issue", and a shelter would attract undesirables to the area. With this in mind, they changed the rules so that the homeless had to "prove" to a sceptical bureaucracy that they had nowhere else to go – and if they failed, they were turned away.
Welcome to Cameron Land:
Hammersmith and Fulham is a sprawling concrete sandwich of London's rich and London's poor. It starts at the million-pound apartments on the marina at Chelsea Harbour – white and glistening and perfect – and runs past giant brownish housing estates and Victorian mansions, until it staggers to a stop on Shepherd's Bush Green, where homeless people sit on the yellow-green grass drinking and watching the SUVs hurtle past. Here, high incomes squat next to high-rises in one big urban screech of noise. In such a mixed area, the Conservatives had to run for power as a reconstructed party "at home with modern Britain". They promised to move beyond Thatcherism and make the poor better off. They were the first to hum the tune that David Cameron has been singing a capella in this election.
People who took this at face value were startled by the first act of the Conservatives on assuming power – a crackdown on the homeless. They immediately sold off 12 homeless shelters, handing them to large property developers. The horrified charity Crisis was offered premises by the BBC to house the abandoned in a shelter over the Christmas period at least. The council refused permission. They said the homeless were a "law and order issue", and a shelter would attract undesirables to the area. With this in mind, they changed the rules so that the homeless had to "prove" to a sceptical bureaucracy that they had nowhere else to go – and if they failed, they were turned away.
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The worst thing that could have happened to the election was to bring is these televised events.ancientnloyal wrote:Was just wondering if it had anything to do with the televised events. As you said cherry it isnt which is fine - which is better imo actuallyI think many parties offer their owns policies to suit different kinds of people... thats the way it is and has to/should be
Britain doesnt need another "Stricktly come dancing" scenario where the polatician is voted for because they can smile the best and have the whitest teeth as a popularity vote.
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Spot on PM. The fact that the debate winners answered no questions at all shows how much the general public put a value on style over substance. If I were a teaching assistant, a nurse or any worker on minimum wage, a tory government will be catastrophic. How they can justify targeting these people while reducing the tax on millionaires is mistifying. The fact that people who will be disadvantaged most by a tory government are willing to vote for them is even more mistifying.
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