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Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 pm
by OJ
Barstewards! I think it is time we started to appeal. Can understand to some extent why they don't especially if that bloke from Huddersfield is still on the panel as he openly admits to hating Wigan. Must be very difficult to get a neutral panel but they could at least make the attempt.
I think it is time all Wigan players gave the Churchilian sign to the RFL regarding international duties, it would not only give them a good rest over winter it would also save them the humiliation of being on another England team to get battered.
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:46 pm
by Shaun1967
Ex Wigan player Colin Clarke usually sits on the panel.
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:18 pm
by DaveO
Not looked at the RFL web site but if we pleaded guilty I do not think an appeal is possible.
We need to start to treat the system with the contempt all other clubs seem to do. Pleading not guilty or getting found guilty then appealing does not seem to carry any risk of increased bans.
Every other club seems to do this and get away with it. We should too.
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:19 pm
by exile in Tiger country
DaveO wrote:Not looked at the RFL web site but if we pleaded guilty I do not think an appeal is possible.
We need to start to treat the system with the contempt all other clubs seem to do. Pleading not guilty or getting found guilty then appealing does not seem to carry any risk of increased bans.
Every other club seems to do this and get away with it. We should too.
Nothing on the RFL site currently.
Just the charges/case numbers etc.
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:28 pm
by Shaun1967
DaveO wrote:Not looked at the RFL web site but if we pleaded guilty I do not think an appeal is possible.
We need to start to treat the system with the contempt all other clubs seem to do. Pleading not guilty or getting found guilty then appealing does not seem to carry any risk of increased bans.
Every other club seems to do this and get away with it. We should too.
Look at the farce that happened with Aaron Murphy of Wakefield last month.
He pleaded not guilty - was found guilty - 2 match ban.
Appealed, pleading guilty and was found not guilty and had his ban overturned.
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2321
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2333
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:34 pm
by OJ
DaveO wrote:We need to start to treat the system with the contempt all other clubs seem to do. Pleading not guilty or getting found guilty then appealing does not seem to carry any risk of increased bans.
Every other club seems to do this and get away with it. We should too.
Absolutely right - doing the right thing and being gentlemen about it is getting us nowhere. Time for a go at plan B
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:48 pm
by josie andrews
Shaun1967 wrote:Ex Wigan player Colin Clarke usually sits on the panel.
DISCIPLINARY ROTA 2011
February 2011 – May 2011
Date of Meeting/Appeal Chairman Side Members
Tues 15th March P Charlesworth R Bridge N McAvoy
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/disciplinary_rota
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:51 pm
by gpartin
What really pi**es me off is that everyone always knew the unwritten rule that you never got a ban if there was a big game coming up. Doesn't apply to us.
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:56 pm
by josie andrews
gpartin wrote:What really pi**es me off is that everyone always knew the unwritten rule that you never got a ban if there was a big game coming up. Doesn't apply to us.
I said exactly that when Lima got banned from MM so he couldn't play in the WCC
Re: 2 match ban for Joel!
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:34 am
by R Douglas
KOOCH wrote:josie andrews wrote:KOOCH wrote:Am I getting forgetful as I get older or not. Did Radford get banned last season for hitting another player whilst the other player was on the ground and splitting his eye open ? Or was that another player that I am thinking about ? Memory seems to be going since I have stopped smoking 40 cigs a day and reducing it to 6 a day. Cigarettes and Cigarettes and Cigarettes are clouding my thought pattern.
It was Radford Kooch, but not sure if they/he "appealed" & it was either reduced or just the fine in the end!!!
Thanks for that Josie I thought it was he the cowardly swine. He of exceptional character (my arse)and endearing smile. The double standards abound within Red Hall of whom I have just emailed with my inner most thoughts.
Kooch,
I'm sat on a hotel balcony in Mexico watching all this play out. Maybe I've had too much Teqilla but I could have wrote the script for the decisions and I'm not even in the UK. Radford hit Bailey on the floor and got sent off. He was then banned for one match with the following quote from the commitee:-
"The panel have taken a great deal of time to come to the decision. You have been given credit for your long unblemished record in the game and the fact that you have pleaded guilty. In our view however this was a serious matter, virtually an assault by punching a player four times to the head who was on the ground, and although your opponent was allowed to continue with the game he did sustain a blood injury." - 7th September 2010.
So what they've quoted in the justification for letting him off this time is a blatant lie. How do they sleep at night?