robjoenz posted:
There is one thing that we all to seem to agree on and that is that Maurice was a good chairman in the glory days, singing Edwards, Gregory, Offiah etc. etc.
You said it though Wills...
...up till recently he has been a good chairman overall.
But he has still made signings like Lam, C Smith, Renouf, Dallas and so on. He has made many more good signings recently than bad.
He can't seem to manage the salary cap. It's ok to say the salary cap has hindered his job but Hetherington and Caisley seem to manage it extremely well compared to us.
I'll give you that one but lets see how things pan out over the next two season. It is only two seasons we have had to work to 1.8 million (I think).
The way he treated Briscoe was terrible, offering him a bit part contract then changing his mind by which time he'd decided he'd not stay where he was not wanted.
The reason for letting Briscoe and Johnston go was to keep Adrian Lam for half a season. Now for me we ought to have thanked Lam for his years of duty but let him know it was time for him to retire because in this salary cap climate we couldn't afford to keep a place vacant. Lindsay, however, did not do this!
But who would he have got to replace him? Of those two you mention I was more bothered about Johnson than Briscoe. Basically Briscoe would not have got a game with Rads around and you can't expect players like him to stick around on the off chance. With Johnson going I felt we were lightweight in the centres but Wilde stepped up to take his place but you must also remember with the loss of his brother a change of club and a new start may have been what the player wanted.
He blamed the 20/20 rule for not keeping Robinson which is clearly a lie in light of signing Godwin. A decent chairman would not lie through his teeth to the fans especially if he is 'Wigan through and through!'
Of course it is the 20/20 rule! If there was none we would still have Robinson but since there is one, the decsion had to be made was Robinson worth a 20/20 slot? Mo thinks the answer is no and wants a different player taking up that slot.
Without the 20/20 we may well have had Godwin
and Robinson. With it, we can only have one of them and the choice is Godwin.
That sort of decision is going to be common place given the rules and the fact we produce so many good young players. We can't keep them all and sometimes there are going to be players from outside the club whom Mo thinks are a more valuable addition to the squad than the ones we have.
How much say did Denis Betts/Mike Gregory have to do with our signing for next season?
Not much I would think but what is new on that front? John Monie wanted to sign Phil Blake and Mo signed Frano Botica. Monie was quoted as saying he could not understand it, signing a second string All Black with no RL experience over Blake. He then went on to admit Botica (and Mo) proved him wrong.
Three top class props with international experience at the highest level have retired since last season. We have signed one top class prop (Seuseu) in replacement.
You can only sign what is available. Now the seasons are in sync (GB and Aus) there are fewer top class players available. Mo made a smart move with C Smith didn't he? Got a top player disenchanted with the NRL to Wigan. Players like Smith don't grow on trees.
Then of course there is Robinson, not quite the answer to all our prayers as you so sarcastically suggest Pacman but nevertheless a scrum half is better than no scrum half as Mike quite rightly points out.
Robinson may not have had the greatest of seasons but he was not given the same chance as Danny Orr, for example.
In what way? Luke was never going to displace Lam when Lam was fit. Just like Briscoe would not replace Rads. LR found a role as interchange hooker and did well there. I wish he were staying but it is not the end of the world he has left. As a scrum half I don't think he could have done the job for us next season even if the alternative is Orr as Scrum half.
Now I won't pretend to know who I'd prefer as chairman, I just know that I'd prefer someone that could do the job he's required to do without overlapping into the coachs role. I would also like a chairman that was honest and told the fans the truth and it amazes me that anyone is happy with a chairman that does not provide the above.
On the signing front it has always been that way. On the honesty front, you haven't convinced me he has lied.
I am sure you will get a lot of agreement with your post but then there are a lot of people who get a red mist before their eyes when the subject of Mo crops up and all logic goes out of the window. You conspiracy theory as to why Orr was given a chance and LR (in theory) wasn't is the sort of non-factual stuff posted about what Mo does (no offence intended by the way).
Dave