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Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:45 pm
by Wandering Warrior
Salary too big?

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:02 pm
by Fan4Fifty
Glad that's all been cleared up then!!

Now, where were we re: salary caps etc ...........?

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:54 pm
by DaveO
It's very strange when you compare this to the Gelling situation.

Given what Gelling did, if FPN wants to go and live down under he could just do the same and walk out. Now granted if he did he would be unemployed but if you read Gelling's blog he was trying to get fixed up at NZW and the only reason he didn't he says is they had no room.

The point being he walked out but was still looking to continue playing RL so either Wigan could not stop him doing that or if they could, they gave him permission to carry on. So if Wigan really want rid of FPN his contract here is irrelevant. They either can't stop him or could just say "yes, fine, bye!".

So why is he still a Wigan player? Only one reason I can think of since contracts seem pretty unenforceable and Wigan rarely stand in a players way if they want out is he doesn't want to leave.

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:10 pm
by shaunedwardsfanclub
DaveO wrote:It's very strange when you compare this to the Gelling situation.

Given what Gelling did, if FPN wants to go and live down under he could just do the same and walk out. Now granted if he did he would be unemployed but if you read Gelling's blog he was trying to get fixed up at NZW and the only reason he didn't he says is they had no room.

The point being he walked out but was still looking to continue playing RL so either Wigan could not stop him doing that or if they could, they gave him permission to carry on. So if Wigan really want rid of FPN his contract here is irrelevant. They either can't stop him or could just say "yes, fine, bye!".

So why is he still a Wigan player? Only one reason I can think of since contracts seem pretty unenforceable and Wigan rarely stand in a players way if they want out is he doesn't want to leave.
Or he wants Wigan to top his salary up :conf:

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:19 pm
by DaveO
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
DaveO wrote:It's very strange when you compare this to the Gelling situation.

Given what Gelling did, if FPN wants to go and live down under he could just do the same and walk out. Now granted if he did he would be unemployed but if you read Gelling's blog he was trying to get fixed up at NZW and the only reason he didn't he says is they had no room.

The point being he walked out but was still looking to continue playing RL so either Wigan could not stop him doing that or if they could, they gave him permission to carry on. So if Wigan really want rid of FPN his contract here is irrelevant. They either can't stop him or could just say "yes, fine, bye!".

So why is he still a Wigan player? Only one reason I can think of since contracts seem pretty unenforceable and Wigan rarely stand in a players way if they want out is he doesn't want to leave.
Or he wants Wigan to top his salary up :conf:
Which is a reason why he would not want to leave.

If Wigan really wanted him out I can't see why topping his salary up isn't better than paying it in full.

If he wants out I see no benefit from keeping him anyway. When Taylor wanted out the club didn't want him near the place so why would they want a disgruntled FPN here? Again agreeing to top his salary up would seem to be a better option than having a disgruntled FPN here and paying him the full whack.

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:24 pm
by shaunedwardsfanclub
DaveO wrote:
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
DaveO wrote:It's very strange when you compare this to the Gelling situation.

Given what Gelling did, if FPN wants to go and live down under he could just do the same and walk out. Now granted if he did he would be unemployed but if you read Gelling's blog he was trying to get fixed up at NZW and the only reason he didn't he says is they had no room.

The point being he walked out but was still looking to continue playing RL so either Wigan could not stop him doing that or if they could, they gave him permission to carry on. So if Wigan really want rid of FPN his contract here is irrelevant. They either can't stop him or could just say "yes, fine, bye!".

So why is he still a Wigan player? Only one reason I can think of since contracts seem pretty unenforceable and Wigan rarely stand in a players way if they want out is he doesn't want to leave.
Or he wants Wigan to top his salary up :conf:
Which is a reason why he would not want to leave.

If Wigan really wanted him out I can't see why topping his salary up isn't better than paying it in full.

If he wants out I see no benefit from keeping him anyway. When Taylor wanted out the club didn't want him near the place so why would they want a disgruntled FPN here? Again agreeing to top his salary up would seem to be a better option than having a disgruntled FPN here and paying him the full whack.
Wigan didn't top Taylor's salary up, that's the difference.

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:36 pm
by DaveO
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
DaveO wrote:
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote: Or he wants Wigan to top his salary up :conf:
Which is a reason why he would not want to leave.

If Wigan really wanted him out I can't see why topping his salary up isn't better than paying it in full.

If he wants out I see no benefit from keeping him anyway. When Taylor wanted out the club didn't want him near the place so why would they want a disgruntled FPN here? Again agreeing to top his salary up would seem to be a better option than having a disgruntled FPN here and paying him the full whack.
Wigan didn't top Taylor's salary up, that's the difference.
As I said, surely it's better to top up and get rid and save some cash rather than having a disgruntled player around? I am pretty sure we have topped up other players salaries who have left in the past though I can't think who off the top of my head.

Maybe the truth of the matter is neither party wants to part company!


Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:36 pm
by No straw damn us
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
DaveO wrote:
shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote: Or he wants Wigan to top his salary up :conf:
Which is a reason why he would not want to leave.

If Wigan really wanted him out I can't see why topping his salary up isn't better than paying it in full.

If he wants out I see no benefit from keeping him anyway. When Taylor wanted out the club didn't want him near the place so why would they want a disgruntled FPN here? Again agreeing to top his salary up would seem to be a better option than having a disgruntled FPN here and paying him the full whack.
Wigan didn't top Taylor's salary up, that's the difference.
Surely it would depend on how much the other club wanted Wigan to contribute. Lets say he's on £150K. If the other club wanted Wigan to contribute £100K or more then it would be a no no for me. If it were £20K or thereabouts then I suspect Wigan would let him go.

Re: FPN going,going..gone???

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:06 pm
by josie andrews
Someone had their wires crossed over Nuuausala

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