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TravellingWarrior wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:19 pm

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:42 pm

jobo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:35 pm

I for one would be happy to see him coaching at Wigan. He's an intelligent bloke with a massive understanding of RL.

In general, he is an all round good guy who just so happened to have a fall from grace videoed. He shouldn't be condemned for life because of that imo.

How's it condemned for life he can go work at another club. If you got sacked from your Job for similar reason you would not get the same chance with another company.

It undermines wigan claiming the club is about integrity. Drinking shows who. Someone really is

Let's apply the same logic.

Hardaker should be allowed back to Leeds its was only a bit racism can't hold that against him forever.

Or back to cats it's only drugs. Everyone does those apperently.

I'm same opinion that Burgess should be nowhere near superleague because of his history.

We promote a family sport and talk about community, a culture well this is a slap on the face made possible by apologists because he's a sportsman and not some office worker or ground worker.

I would like to argue that surely this could also be a benefit to our Academy lads, who have someone that can advise against for want of a better term "being a D******D" in a public place with alcohol having done it and the consequences that then followed from said incident. (inc being reminded of said incident for life, (as we can see from the above comments).

Following that same logic would we all have kicked off for having Shaun Wane as head coach, who in his own words:

It was a very, very unhappy childhood,’ admits the England rugby league coach, who grew up on the Worsley Hall council estate in Wigan. ‘My dad was a brutal man and I was a shocking kid. I was breaking into places, pinching cars, going out all night fighting with men.

Taken from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... glory.html

if like Shaun Wane, Joel has changed, learnt from his past, and we can use it to educate our young players then surely that's a benefit in the long run?

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:42 pm
There is a difference between what happened before your employment and acting an certain way when in employment.

People seem to be making excuses, but for me they are professional sportsmen, it is there employment. If any individual in a professional role acted like that they would lose their job and wouldn't be able to come back to the same company.

Joel was sacked for his actions while representing the club. While I have no ill will and he may have changed he had his chance with Wigan and blew it bringing him back just shows the club doesn't care about integrity at all.

Part of the reason I'm so against this is because that video was despicable

josie andrews wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:36 pm

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:42 pm
There is a difference between what happened before your employment and acting an certain way when in employment.

People seem to be making excuses, but for me they are professional sportsmen, it is there employment. If any individual in a professional role acted like that they would lose their job and wouldn't be able to come back to the same company.

Joel was sacked for his actions while representing the club. While I have no ill will and he may have changed he had his chance with Wigan and blew it bringing him back just shows the club doesn't care about integrity at all.

Part of the reason I'm so against this is because that video was despicable

Sorry to correct you there, but he wasn’t representing the club at all! He had been at a private christening beforehand.

And if you’re telling me that wasn’t a set up! Bloody hell, who would think of videoing an argument with someone in the public eye if you weren’t after something.

Anyway this topic has gone way off topic. Please keep to commenting on the pre season friendly.

Thank you