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Mike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:39 pm My biggest concern is the kicking. It could be a close match and we'll be at a disadvantage it Harry loses confidence after a couple of misses. IMO Keiran's was a red, and would have been in previous seasons. I reckon it does warrant the grade D charge in this current regime. Its the shoulder charge nature of the challenge that does it for me. Combined with the outcome - which was very forceful contact with the head, the mitigation of rapid loss of height loses some weight.

Dupre will also be a loss, but its more marginal IMO. His offence definitely warrants a ban unless it was accidental, or caused by interference. I haven't watched it back so I dont know if there is anything there, but if there's evidence for that, we should appeal. I'd say that watching it live I thought it was delibrate and was amazed the ref missed it.

I'd also say the shoulder charge tackle from Wire earlier in the game should have been reviewed. Seemed to be pretty serious to me.

The other high shots, IMO were grabbing arms rather than swinging arms, and are marginal whether they should be reviewed. Certainly in the first 4 weeks of the season they would all have been yellow cards and 1 match bans, but that is not where we are now. On field interpretations seem to be back to something like normal, but bans are still slightly longer and giving out more often.

moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:14 pm I don't suppose Eckersley can kick goals?

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:21 pm We definitely have a discapline issue, but I don't think its in the bans - those are a risk for every team every time they step out these days. I think the issue is with silly offside, lying on and - even worse - backchat penalties. The two we gave away for dissent are just not acceptable, regardless of the refs decision. Those extra yards could make all the difference in a tight game, and for me it shows the players are blaming the ref for their current position, rather than resolving to work their way out of it. If we need to put pressure on the ref, which we should, get the captain over and ask relatively polite questions about his reasoning, asking what we should have done to avoid the pen etc.

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:33 pm

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:39 pm My biggest concern is the kicking. It could be a close match and we'll be at a disadvantage it Harry loses confidence after a couple of misses. IMO Keiran's was a red, and would have been in previous seasons. I reckon it does warrant the grade D charge in this current regime. Its the shoulder charge nature of the challenge that does it for me. Combined with the outcome - which was very forceful contact with the head, the mitigation of rapid loss of height loses some weight.

Dupre will also be a loss, but its more marginal IMO. His offence definitely warrants a ban unless it was accidental, or caused by interference. I haven't watched it back so I dont know if there is anything there, but if there's evidence for that, we should appeal. I'd say that watching it live I thought it was delibrate and was amazed the ref missed it.

I'd also say the shoulder charge tackle from Wire earlier in the game should have been reviewed. Seemed to be pretty serious to me.

The other high shots, IMO were grabbing arms rather than swinging arms, and are marginal whether they should be reviewed. Certainly in the first 4 weeks of the season they would all have been yellow cards and 1 match bans, but that is not where we are now. On field interpretations seem to be back to something like normal, but bans are still slightly longer and giving out more often.

There was interference.

EDINBURGH-WARRIOR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:39 am I have no problem with the ban on our players and hope they learn by their mistakes . What concerns me is inconsistencies that are happening every week . The Saints v Catalan game on Friday had more high shots and shoulder charges (a couple of them quite nasty by Catalan not picked up by the ref but highlighted by Sky) than most games but no citations if I am correct. Crazy

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