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Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am
by blindsideprop
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:43 am Very good player but not in the class of Kenny and Miles in my view.
Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am
by keptinthedarkfans
blindsideprop wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:43 am Very good player but not in the class of Kenny and Miles in my view.
Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.


Second best for me dean bell my choice

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
by Firestarter
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am
blindsideprop wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:43 am Very good player but not in the class of Kenny and Miles in my view.
Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.


Second best for me dean bell my choice
Yep dean bell my choice also.The complete player

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:33 pm
by Charriots Offiah
blindsideprop wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:43 am Very good player but not in the class of Kenny and Miles in my view.
Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.
Fair enough mate, Kenny and Miles played for Australia I rest my case. By the way Kenny played stand off and centre.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:34 pm
by Charriots Offiah
Firestarter wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am
blindsideprop wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am

Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.


Second best for me dean bell my choice
Yep dean bell my choice also.The complete player
Dean wasn’t Australian.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:25 pm
by Flash
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:33 pm
blindsideprop wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:52 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:43 am Very good player but not in the class of Kenny and Miles in my view.
Cant agree,they were not able to play in other positions and only played much less games.I believe he is the best import we have ever had.
Fair enough mate, Kenny and Miles played for Australia I rest my case. By the way Kenny played stand off and centre.
I'm not sure that them playing for Australia has any bearing on what they did at and for Wigan. We've had many ex Aussie internationals who were poor for us. I'm certainly not saying either Miles or Kenny were poor...quite the opposite...but it has absolutely no bearing on their performances for Wigan.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:54 pm
by keptinthedarkfans
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:34 pm
Firestarter wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am [/b]

Second best for me dean bell my choice
Yep dean bell my choice also.The complete player
Dean wasn’t Australian.
Where did I say he was? I was answering best import signing.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:27 pm
by Firestarter
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:34 pm
Firestarter wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
keptinthedarkfans wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:56 am [/b]

Second best for me dean bell my choice
Yep dean bell my choice also.The complete player
Dean wasn’t Australian.
I know but kitdf stated the best import

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:12 pm
by morley pie eater
Flash wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:37 am
The Yonner wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:16 am Kenny was a complete player, and would have been good as a fullback in the modern game too. I think his reputation was tarnished, however, by his final appearance in the Premiership semi-final at St Helens in the week after Wembley, when he clearly didnt want to be there and helped to ensure the team's defeat. Bit of a cardinal sin that.

Difficult to assess Barrett because he was playing in a poor team and consequently we didnt see him in a final.

Not difficult to put Bevan French right up there with them though.
I think there's more to being a complete player than ability. Attitude is just as important and I think Kenny could fall short in this regard. As you say, post Wembley being perhaps the most glaring example. I remember watching the NRL at that time when he and Sterling were in tandem for Paramatta and there was often a "which Kenny will turn up" narrative around the games so it wasn't just whilst at Wigan. He could be something of a reluctant defender too at times so I think your assertion of him being a great fullback isn't as cut and dried as you make it seem.

All the above makes it sound as though I didn't rate him which couldn't be further from the truth. Truly a match winner on his day, and he had plenty of those days! French for me though when it comes to Wigan. Simply done more over a longer period and his attitude and willingness to work can't be faulted. Let's put it this way...I doubt you'd ever see French doing a 'post Wembley Kenny' whilst wearing a Wigan shirt. It would go against everything he stands for.
Agreed. For me the idea of a complete player means complete in every aspect. Respect for fans and for the club is one category that Bevan excels at when it comes to imports.

I don't mind a great Aussie coming here for the $$$ as long as he performs, but I wouldn't put him in the "complete player" category unless he ticks other boxes like integrity. Kenny wouldn't make it onto my shortlist, but Tuigamala and Bevan certainly do.

Re: Bevan French

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:56 pm
by shawxshark
Barrett for me is best 6 we’ve had in SL he was class and played in not the best team, in a team of this calibre he would be unbelievable, but a different player to Bev

I never saw Kenny play so can’t comment on him as I was only born in 84 so cant remember him,

I also think wardle is the best centre in SL currently and no one’s even close to him, and he’s up there with carmont and Connolly easily

Best overseas signing though has to VIALEKI 🤣🤣